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I think that the brick wall is too thick for me to penetrate, its taken me five long years to get back to the year 1818. The Nathans were of Jewish ancestry and anyone with that background is very difficult to trace. Would any other researcher of the Nathan name be willing to guide this perplexed person I wonder? :-0

Start by looking in 'search all member trees'.......under the 'search' button

If anyone else is researching the same people, you will find links there to enable you to try to contact them

You haven't mentioned any location .................................

give us info as to how far back you've got, i.e. names, location etc and we'll see if we can help

http://www.jewishgen.org/

(above could be useful)

Chris :)

This is the one born c1818 (based on info in Neil's GR tree)

1851 census

Person: NATHAN, Joseph Address: Tripes Yard, Spitalfields, Tower Hamlets

NATHAN, Joseph Head Married M 33 1818 General Dealer
Spitalfields, Middlesex VIEW
NATHAN, Marianne Wife Married F 28 1823
Spitalfields, Middlesex VIEW
NATHAN, Abraham Son M 7 1844
Spitalfields, Middlesex VIEW
NATHAN, Samuel Son M 5 1846
Spitalfields, Middlesex VIEW
NATHAN, Rosetta Daughter F 3 1848
Spitalfields, Middlesex VIEW
NATHAN, Sarah Daughter F 1 1850
Spitalfields, Middlesex

14 trees on Ancestry/Mundia
Joseph Nathan
Birth: 1818 - Middlesex, England
Death: Sep 1859 - Bethnal Green, London
Marriage: 14th May 1846 (14 May 1846) - London, London
Spouse: Mary Davis
F: Mordecai Nathan

M: Eleanor Hannah Davis
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Marriage to Eleanor Davis
1820 19 Nov Age: 23
Great Synagogue Marriage
Ref from SynagogueScribes.com GSM 198/09 to Mordecai Nathan

http://synagoguescribes.com/blog/

Marianne's ms seems to have been Davis - but I know it's the Nathans you're interested in:


1861 England Census about Rosa Nathan
Name: Rosa Nathan
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: 1847
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Clkenwell, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Whitechapel
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Whitechapel North
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Piece: 270
Folio: 63
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Rachael Davis 65
John Davis 35
Samuel Davis 23
Abraham Nathan 16
Saml Nathan 15
Rosa Nathan 14
Sarah Nathan 12
Julia Nathan 9


EDIT: Parents had died, perhaps?? They are still living with their grandmother Rachael in 1871

Abraham was born in 1844, and the marriage was in 1846 according to above information.

So who were his parents?

In addition, if he died in 1859 who was Julia's Father - though dates just about possible?

????

Marriages Jun 1846 (>99%)
Davis Mary City of London 2 208A
Nathan Joseph City of London 2 208A

In which case Abraham was born before they married?? Or was Joseph's son from a previous marriage.

Not if this is her....

Births Dec 1860
NATHAN Julia Harris Mile End 1c 546

Julia is 9 in 1861, and 19 in 1871, so the 1860 birth isn't her:


1871 England Census about Julia Nathan
Name: Julia Nathan
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England
Civil Parish: Bishopsgate
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: London City
Sub-registration district: St Botolph
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 251
Piece: 416
Folio: 27
Page Number: 47
Household Members:
Name Age
Rachel Davis 75
John Davis 45
Samuel Davis 32
Sarah Nathan 20
Julia Nathan 19

Births Dec 1852 (>99%)
Nathan Julia Whitechapel 1c 310

Wow, I did not expect so many replies to my cry for help, it makes me feel so grateful to everyone who sent me those. You may have gathered that this chap is a littli bit thick when it comes down to any sort of Admin but I will try to give you more info on my Nathan family. Lilian Nathan was my Mother, born in Nottinghamshire dob 6/3/1910 she died in 1937. Her Parents were Michael and Sara, He dob 19/6/1885 he lived until 1948. His Father was Samuel Nathan dob 30/11/1845 dod 19/12/1907 he left the East END OF London and moved to Nottinghamshire. Samuels Father was Joseph Dob 1818 Dod 1859, he married Marianne Davis and they had Abraham born 1844 Samuel born 1845 Rosetta born 1848 Sarah born 1850 and Julia born 1852. Now was Mordecai Nathan born 1800 and died 1840 Joseph Dad? who was his Mum? when were they born? where did they live? who was their Parents? and where did they come from ?was it England or an other Country? I hope some one can help solve this my problem. Again I THANK EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU

The informant's details may help your quest.......and the man's age will be on the cert

Deaths Dec 1840 (>99%)
NATHAN Mordecai E. London 2 151

His last address should also be recorded....................and that can be researched in 1841...........

Possibilities for Marianne's death:

Deaths Jun 1859 (>99%)
NATHAN Mary Ann Whitechapel 1c 220

Deaths Mar 1861 (>99%)
NATHAN Mary Bethnal Gn 1c 268

Samuel also born before Joseph & Marianne's marriage:

Births Dec 1845 (>99%)
Nathan Samuel Whitechapel 2 545

As you have 'marked as answered', can we take it that you require no further assistance?

No I still have not found Mordecais Nathans parents or where they came from, I did not realise that Marked as answered gave the impression I had found all that I required.

As it's impossible to remove the "Answered" tick, you could edit the title of your thread to say "NOT answered" - or similar - otherwise people will stop looking at it.