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Hi Thelma and thank you for telling me about the Mundie site, you were correct about Joseph Nathan and its very useful .thank you

There is a marriage cert for Joseph in several trees on Mundia.com.
It is a free site,part of Ancestry.co.uk.Just sign in.
http://www.mundia.com/gb/Search/Results?givenName=joseph&birthPlace=spittlesfield&deathPlace=&surname=nathan&birthDay=&birthMonth=&birthYear=1818&deathDay=&deathMonth=&deathYear=&gender=Unknown&motherGivenName=&spouseGivenName=&fatherGivenName=&showMembersOnly=false

If the link does not work just enter Joseph Nathan 1818 Spittlefields.
22 trees that I can see.

To all those who are helping me find my Nathan roots. You have helped me so far back to Joseph Nathan. back in 1818 and have suggested his Father was Mordecai Nathan, I do need to make certain this is correct but have no idea how to go about this task or to find out who Joseph mother was. In my ignorant way I have tried most of the free sites but they lead to a site that requires becoming a paying member when the free period ends and by that time I am no further forward in my searches. Does anyone have advise that will help please bearing in mind every penny counts to me so am unable to pay the fees most charge for researching their sites. Thank you all for our time and assistance to date.

As stated previously, the copy of Mordecai's death cert may hold helpful info

It will certainly give you his address, his age, and the informant's details

However, unless you have a copy of Joseph's marriage cert, you can't be sure that his father was Mordecai

Ancestry trees are notoriously unreliable, although as there appear to be several with the same info, it may, in this instance, be accurate

FH can't be done accurately without spending on certs.............

Have you looked at the Jewish sites whose URL's were posted for you?

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As it's impossible to remove the "Answered" tick, you could edit the title of your thread to say "NOT answered" - or similar - otherwise people will stop looking at it.

No I still have not found Mordecais Nathans parents or where they came from, I did not realise that Marked as answered gave the impression I had found all that I required.

As you have 'marked as answered', can we take it that you require no further assistance?

Samuel also born before Joseph & Marianne's marriage:

Births Dec 1845 (>99%)
Nathan Samuel Whitechapel 2 545

Possibilities for Marianne's death:

Deaths Jun 1859 (>99%)
NATHAN Mary Ann Whitechapel 1c 220

Deaths Mar 1861 (>99%)
NATHAN Mary Bethnal Gn 1c 268

The informant's details may help your quest.......and the man's age will be on the cert

Deaths Dec 1840 (>99%)
NATHAN Mordecai E. London 2 151

His last address should also be recorded....................and that can be researched in 1841...........

Wow, I did not expect so many replies to my cry for help, it makes me feel so grateful to everyone who sent me those. You may have gathered that this chap is a littli bit thick when it comes down to any sort of Admin but I will try to give you more info on my Nathan family. Lilian Nathan was my Mother, born in Nottinghamshire dob 6/3/1910 she died in 1937. Her Parents were Michael and Sara, He dob 19/6/1885 he lived until 1948. His Father was Samuel Nathan dob 30/11/1845 dod 19/12/1907 he left the East END OF London and moved to Nottinghamshire. Samuels Father was Joseph Dob 1818 Dod 1859, he married Marianne Davis and they had Abraham born 1844 Samuel born 1845 Rosetta born 1848 Sarah born 1850 and Julia born 1852. Now was Mordecai Nathan born 1800 and died 1840 Joseph Dad? who was his Mum? when were they born? where did they live? who was their Parents? and where did they come from ?was it England or an other Country? I hope some one can help solve this my problem. Again I THANK EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU

Births Dec 1852 (>99%)
Nathan Julia Whitechapel 1c 310

Julia is 9 in 1861, and 19 in 1871, so the 1860 birth isn't her:


1871 England Census about Julia Nathan
Name: Julia Nathan
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England
Civil Parish: Bishopsgate
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: London City
Sub-registration district: St Botolph
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 251
Piece: 416
Folio: 27
Page Number: 47
Household Members:
Name Age
Rachel Davis 75
John Davis 45
Samuel Davis 32
Sarah Nathan 20
Julia Nathan 19

Not if this is her....

Births Dec 1860
NATHAN Julia Harris Mile End 1c 546

????

Marriages Jun 1846 (>99%)
Davis Mary City of London 2 208A
Nathan Joseph City of London 2 208A

In which case Abraham was born before they married?? Or was Joseph's son from a previous marriage.

Abraham was born in 1844, and the marriage was in 1846 according to above information.

So who were his parents?

In addition, if he died in 1859 who was Julia's Father - though dates just about possible?

Marianne's ms seems to have been Davis - but I know it's the Nathans you're interested in:


1861 England Census about Rosa Nathan
Name: Rosa Nathan
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: 1847
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Clkenwell, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Whitechapel
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Whitechapel North
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Piece: 270
Folio: 63
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Rachael Davis 65
John Davis 35
Samuel Davis 23
Abraham Nathan 16
Saml Nathan 15
Rosa Nathan 14
Sarah Nathan 12
Julia Nathan 9


EDIT: Parents had died, perhaps?? They are still living with their grandmother Rachael in 1871

14 trees on Ancestry/Mundia
Joseph Nathan
Birth: 1818 - Middlesex, England
Death: Sep 1859 - Bethnal Green, London
Marriage: 14th May 1846 (14 May 1846) - London, London
Spouse: Mary Davis
F: Mordecai Nathan

M: Eleanor Hannah Davis
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Marriage to Eleanor Davis
1820 19 Nov Age: 23
Great Synagogue Marriage
Ref from SynagogueScribes.com GSM 198/09 to Mordecai Nathan

http://synagoguescribes.com/blog/