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HELP WITH TRANSCRIPTION PLEASE!!!

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Eunice

Eunice Report 6 Feb 2014 23:40

I am looking at a distant branch of my tree and I have come across the Waterworth family in Leigh Lancashire. On the 1901 census dad James and mum Elizabeth have a whole fleet of kids with amazing names but some are incorrect i.e. Nerse is actually Verse, Pertaslin has a variety of changes especially during WW1 as does Bazhylm. I am looking at a child who is transcribed as VIGRIA WATERWORTH, but I am not sure ……. it could be something else and I cannot find a Vigria on the BMD site. Can anyone please help work out what the name is????
Gratefully Yours, as always
E ;-)

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Feb 2014 23:52

Some dates would be useful please

Eunice

Eunice Report 6 Feb 2014 23:55

Mike, all I have is she was born c 1900? at Leigh, so it is stated on the 1901 census. Sorry, I have nothing else to go on :-(

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Feb 2014 00:00


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1897
WATERWORTH Bazhylmn Leigh Wigan & Leigh MCDONALD

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1901
WATERWORTH Vearse - Leigh Wigan & Leigh - MCDONALD


Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Feb 2014 00:02

Could this be it in 1899 ?

WATERWORTH Denira - Leigh Wigan & Leigh - MACDONNELL



Births Dec 1899
Waterworth Denira - Leigh 8c 293

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Feb 2014 00:02

On the 1901 census the child who is transcribed as Vigria who is 1 year old is on the 1911 census as Dinah (the image is definitely written as Dinah).

The child who is transcribed as Earachaus on the 1901 census is on the 1911 census as Caractacus.

Kath. x

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Feb 2014 00:05


Marriages Dec 1921
Robinson Herbert S- Waterworth- Leigh 8c 447
Waterworth Denirah - Robinson - Leigh 8c 447

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Feb 2014 00:08

This looks like the birth of the child transcribed as Bazhylmn:-

Name: WATERWORTH, Bayhyhnn
Registration district: Leigh
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1897
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 8C
Page no: 309

Kath. x

Eunice

Eunice Report 7 Feb 2014 00:08

oh, thank you - how confusing is all of that??!!! Some of their names are biblical - like Napthali -but I could never imagine why they would call one something that sounded like 'earache - us' !! I had seen the name Denira, and must confess I did wonder. I presume McDonald/McDonnell is the mother's maiden name? I had not got so far as to look at her.
Thank you all so much for help and suggestions :-D <3

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Feb 2014 00:15

This looks like the parent's marriage:-


Name: WATERWORTH, James
Registration district: Manchester
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1881
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 8D
Page no: 288

MarriageFinder: James Waterworth married one of the following people:

MACDONALD, Elizabeth<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
SHAW, Eliza
HULME, William

although there is also this marriage which I thought at first might be the one although probably not given the births from the Lancashire website given above by Mike:-


Name: WATERWORTH, James
Registration district: Leigh
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1883
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 8C
Page no: 284

MarriageFinder: James Waterworth married one of the following people:

TILDSLEY, Elizabeth<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
WILCOCK, Mary
THORPE, Thomas

Kath. x

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Feb 2014 00:20

The 1911 census says married 29 years.
12 children born... 3 died.


This could well be the marriage


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1881
WATERWORTH James - MACDONALD Elizabeth
Manchester, St. John Manchester

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Feb 2014 00:20

The 1911 census says that James and Elizabeth have had 12 children - 9 living and 3 have died.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Feb 2014 00:21

SNAP! Mike, lol.

Kath. x

Eunice

Eunice Report 7 Feb 2014 00:28

my goodness you two are on the ball!! Thank you. I have actually just found that marriage - and she came from Ireland originally. How sad to lose 3 children. But to raise 9 …….. I would have dementia very early on!!
Thanks again for your help x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Feb 2014 00:31

On the 1911 census it says Elizabeth was from Glasgow - not Ireland although the 1901 census says Ireland. However the 1911 census was written by James himself and not the enumerator so you would think he would get it right.

Kath. x

Eunice

Eunice Report 7 Feb 2014 00:33

and now I have checked the 1911 census and she now climbs to be from Scotland??!! Yet earlier census and marriage say Ireland!!! How to confuse us!!!

Eunice

Eunice Report 7 Feb 2014 00:34

lol snap again Kath!!!! I am glad they are a distant branch - they are too confusing!!!

Eunice

Eunice Report 7 Feb 2014 00:35

its Glasgow, Lanarkshire I think it is written??!!

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Feb 2014 00:35

Looks like James had siblings with Biblical names too

1881

James Waterworth
Age:22
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1859
Relationship to Head:Son

Father:James Waterworth
Mother:Elizabeth Waterworth

Where born:Haydock, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish:Abram
County/Island:Lancashire

Street Address:
Off Plank Lane Late Gores Houses

Occupation:
Man In Paper Mill ((Foreman


James Waterworth 44
Elizabeth Waterworth 42
James Waterworth 22 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Napthali Waterworth 17
Asher Waterworth 12
Faith Waterworth 9
George Waterworth 5
John Hodgson 59


Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Feb 2014 00:38

1891

James Waterworth 32 - Haydock
Elizabeth Waterworth 32 - IRELAND
Hoyle Waterworth 8
James Waterworth 7
Elias Waterworth 5
Elizabeth E Waterworth 3
Noble Waterworth 1