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Flora Lilian Holkham Marriage

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Catherine

Catherine Report 4 Feb 2014 22:29

Have checked 1901 Scottish census and there is a Shoveller family living in Glasgow. Head of household is a marine engineer from Hampshire, so births may belong to them.

Drat!!!

patchem

patchem Report 4 Feb 2014 22:54

Has anyone found the birth of Frederick Shoveller, or him in any censuses?

Is this his death, or is there another likely one?

Frederick Shoveller
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Mar 1956
Age at Death: 66
Registration District: Chanctonbury
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 670

Catherine

Catherine Report 4 Feb 2014 23:09

No, I've looked under all sorts of names but nothing coming up.

Death looks pretty good though!

patchem

patchem Report 4 Feb 2014 23:18

There are Shovel(l)ers around, but not for Frederick, or Alfred even.

So I would want the marriage certificate - but it depends how close the relationship is.

Catherine

Catherine Report 4 Feb 2014 23:34

I was wondering if he was not born a Shoveler, but maybe his mother married someone called Shoveler and he took his step father's name?

I think the marriage certificate is essential to solve this one!

~~ Jules in Wiltshire~~

~~ Jules in Wiltshire~~ Report 5 Feb 2014 18:16

Thank you everyone for your help....The relationship to me is not a close one so I wont be purchasing a cert...I was just curious to see who she married....
I have tried different spellings of the name but haven't really come up with much!!

Thanks again
Jules x

Researching:
Madgwick, Champion, Pont, Ramus, Hall, Pitt, Rudland, Coates, Wheatley, Collins, Van Staaden, Filmer....

mgnv

mgnv Report 5 Feb 2014 22:26

Since Elham now falls under Kent RD, I can do an online search in their local index for the 4 names of interest at:
http://www.kent.gov.uk/KCC.ROIS.Web.Sites.Public/Pages/MarriageSearch.aspx


Kent Registration Services - Birth, Marriage and Death Certificates

Name HOLKHAM, Flora, A
Year Of Marriage 1909
Entry Number 68
Register SERO/20

Name NUNN, James, J
Year Of Marriage 1909
Entry Number 67
Register SERO/20

Name SHOVELER, Frederick
Year Of Marriage 1909
Entry Number 68
Register SERO/20

Name REED, Mary, R
Year Of Marriage 1909
Entry Number 67
Register SERO/20



Note which pairs have the same entry #.
The presence of an "RO" in the church code bit of the Register code suggests to me that this is from the registrar's own register.
This was mostly used for rego office marrs, since most non-conformists were authorized to keep official registers from 1898.
However, RCs weren't authorized until the 1980s (I think), so the registrar would still have to attend RC marrs so the couple could sign his official rego - such entries would be mixed in with the usual rego office marrs.

There are links to more online local indexes at http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd

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