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Flora Lilian Holkham Marriage

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~~ Jules in Wiltshire~~

~~ Jules in Wiltshire~~ Report 4 Feb 2014 20:01

I have looked on free bmd for a marriage for Flora, she married in Dec qtr 1909 in Elham..If you click on the page number it doesn't give a spouse...How can I find out who she married without having to purchase a cert??
I have tried searching 1911 census using her first and middle names plus place and yr of birth but I cant find her....Would anyone be able to have a look for me please....
She was born in Brighton, Sussex in 1889...

Thank you
Jules x

Researching:
Madgwick, Champion, Pont, Ramus, Hall, Pitt, Rudland, Coates, Wheatley, Collins, Van Staaden, Filmer....

alviegal

alviegal Report 4 Feb 2014 20:13

From fmp.

Civil Registration event: Marriage
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Name: HOLKHAM, Flora Lilian
Registration district: Elham
County: Kent
Year of registration: 1909
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 2A
Page no: 2326

MarriageFinder: Flora Lilian Holkham married one of the following people:

NUNN, James Joseph

SHOVELER, Frederick

REED, Mary Rhoda

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 4 Feb 2014 20:17

just for reference

Name: Flora Lilian Holkham
Event Type: Birth
Event Year: 1889
Event Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
County: Sussex
Page: 247
Volume: 2
Registration Quarter: 3

Researching:
Breakspears of Berkshire and Cardiff, Williams and Harman of Whitchurch, Melingriffith &Tongwynlais,Glamorgan WE HAVE NO CONNECTION Do not share your tree with me

~~ Jules in Wiltshire~~

~~ Jules in Wiltshire~~ Report 4 Feb 2014 20:19

Thank you alviegal and Ann x

Researching:
Madgwick, Champion, Pont, Ramus, Hall, Pitt, Rudland, Coates, Wheatley, Collins, Van Staaden, Filmer....

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 4 Feb 2014 20:21

??????????

Name: Fred C Nunn
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birthplace: Tonbridge, Kent
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: East Preston
Sub-District: Worthing
Parish: Worthing
County: Sussex

Researching:
Breakspears of Berkshire and Cardiff, Williams and Harman of Whitchurch, Melingriffith &Tongwynlais,Glamorgan WE HAVE NO CONNECTION Do not share your tree with me

alviegal

alviegal Report 4 Feb 2014 20:23

Could this be Mary Rhoda and James Joseph? Married 1 year.

1911 census transcription details for: 25 Rossendale Road Folkestone
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN4625 RG78PN195 RD66 SD1 ED2 SN335
Reg. District: Elham
Sub District: Folkestone
Parish: Folkestone
Enum. District: 2
Address: 25 Rossendale Road Folkestone
County: Kent
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
NUNN, Joseph Head Married M 25 1886 Billposter Eals Court London
NUNN, Rhoda Wife Married F 22 1889 Folkestone Kent
NUNN, Anges Daughter F 1 1910 Folkestone Kent

Catherine

Catherine Report 4 Feb 2014 20:33

Her death?

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Flora L Shoveler
Name: Flora L Shoveler
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Sep 1967
Age at Death: 77
Registration District: Cuckfield
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 197

~~ Jules in Wiltshire~~

~~ Jules in Wiltshire~~ Report 4 Feb 2014 20:35

Yes Catherine that could be her death...I have tried looking on 1911 census with the name Shoveler but I still cant find her...Im using ancestry...
Thanks alviegal...


Jules x

Researching:
Madgwick, Champion, Pont, Ramus, Hall, Pitt, Rudland, Coates, Wheatley, Collins, Van Staaden, Filmer....

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 4 Feb 2014 20:37

Elham is in Kent

Researching:
Breakspears of Berkshire and Cardiff, Williams and Harman of Whitchurch, Melingriffith &Tongwynlais,Glamorgan WE HAVE NO CONNECTION Do not share your tree with me

~~ Jules in Wiltshire~~

~~ Jules in Wiltshire~~ Report 4 Feb 2014 20:40

Yes Ann it's near Folkestone...

Researching:
Madgwick, Champion, Pont, Ramus, Hall, Pitt, Rudland, Coates, Wheatley, Collins, Van Staaden, Filmer....

Catherine

Catherine Report 4 Feb 2014 21:01

Oh drat! Where the h*** are they? :-S

I can't see them anywhere !

~~ Jules in Wiltshire~~

~~ Jules in Wiltshire~~ Report 4 Feb 2014 21:03

Me neither lol

Researching:
Madgwick, Champion, Pont, Ramus, Hall, Pitt, Rudland, Coates, Wheatley, Collins, Van Staaden, Filmer....

Andrew

Andrew Report 4 Feb 2014 21:10

Very late, but could this be a child?

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1927 (>99%)
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Shoveller Jean N B Holkham Brighton 2b 320


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 4 Feb 2014 21:17

Could Fred have been in Army/Navy and been abroad?

Andy

Catherine

Catherine Report 4 Feb 2014 21:24

I was wondering that Andy.

There is this:-

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 about Frederick Shovelar
Name: Frederick Shovelar
Regiment or Corps: Royal Garrison Artillery
Regimental Number: 157731

..........................but can't see any records to go with it.

Andrew

Andrew Report 4 Feb 2014 21:36

No trace in Ireland 1911

Andy

Catherine

Catherine Report 4 Feb 2014 21:41

I've found Flora's sisters, Ellen and Edith in 1911, but can't find her other sister Beatrice or her father Charles. Beatrice looks not to have married until 1917 and her father doesn't seem to have died until 1918 so they should be there somewhere.

Thinking down the lines that Frederick was in the army (or such) I thought Flora may have been staying with her family but .......................?

Catherine

Catherine Report 4 Feb 2014 21:46

Found her father with son Charles, but no sign of Flora:-

1911 England Census about Charles Holkham
Name: Charles Holkham
Age in 1911: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Oxfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Maidstone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: 8 Barton Road, Maidstone, Kent
Marital status: Widowed
Occupation: sole Porter
Registration District: Maidstone
Registration District Number: 51
Sub-registration District: Maidstone
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Schedule Number: 148
Piece: 4129
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Thomas William Holkham 29
Frances May Holkham 30
Alfred Charles Holkham 2
Elizabeth Eveyln Holkham 7/12
Charles Holkham 64

Catherine

Catherine Report 4 Feb 2014 22:10

Ooooo just had a thought!

They may not be in Ireland in 1911, but what about Scotland?????

Catherine

Catherine Report 4 Feb 2014 22:19

Just done a quick search on scotlands people and there are no births in scotland between 1909 and 1930 with the surname Shoveler, but using the search for variants of the name there are 2.
Don't have any credits to view but may be worth buying some credits just to see, but then wouldn't want you spend money if they aren't relevant, so...............????

EDIT:- Births are under the name Shoveller, so a very close variant.

I know what my next move would be!

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