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Frederick
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30 Jan 2014 03:50 |
Does anyone know. The where about's of George Henry Tolley born June Q 1869 at Blaby Leicestershire England. After the 1901 Census, he was with his wife Lois Mary Pick born June Q 1870 Ibstock Leicestershire England. in 1901 census but not in the 1911 census and I carn't find a death for him. Fred.
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Jan 2014 06:47 |
1901 (reference) TOLLEY, George H Head Married M 32 1869 Shoe Finisher Leicester TOLLEY, Lois M Wife Married F 31 1870 Hosiery Winder Ibstock, Leicestershire TOLLEY, Lois M Daughter F 11 1890 Leicester, Leicestershire TOLLEY, Elizabeth A Daughter F 9 1892 Leicester, Leicestershire Piece: 2992 Folio: 110 Page: 10 Registration District: Leicester Civil Parish: Leicester Municipal Borough: Address: 2, Yard, Neal Street, Leicester County: Leicestershire
1891 TOLLY, George H Head Married M 22 1869 Shoe Finisher Leicestershire TOLLY, Lois Mary Wife Married F 21 1870 Cotton Winder Ibstock, Leicestershire TOLLY, Lois Maria Daughter F 2 1889 Leicestershire Piece: 2530 Folio: 112 Page: 17 Registration District: Leicester Civil Parish: Leicester Municipal Borough: Leicester Address: 2, Brook Street, Leicester County: Leicestershire
1911 TOLLEY, Lois Mary Married F 41 1870 Wool Winder Leicestershire Ibstock ALLEN, Addie Boarder Single F 30 1881 Warwickshire Birmingham TOLLEY, Reva Daughter F 7 1904 Lancashire Manchester TOLLEY, Nellei Daughter Single F 15 1896 Leicestershire Leicester RG number: RG14 Piece: 19179 Reference: RG14PN19179 RG78PN1150A RD407 SD1 ED15 SN145 Registration District: Leicester Sub District: North West Leicester Enumeration District: 15 Parish: Leicester Address: 6 Count a Bay Street Leicester County: Leicestershire (Married 22yrs, 4 children born, 4 living)
Births Mar 1904 (>99%) ------------------------------------------ Tolley Neva Chorlton 8c 741
Births Jun 1895 (>99%) --------------------------------------------- Tolley Nellie Leicester 7a 267
Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------(Daughter, with John Newton 1911) CASON Rupert Cecil Leicester 7a 448 HUNT Julia Leicester 7a 448 NEWTON John Leicester 7a 448 TOLLEY Lois Maria Leicester 7a 448 TOTLEY Lois Maria Leicester 7a 448 WOODS Alice Leicester 7a 448
Deaths Dec 1946 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------ Tolley Lois M 76 Leicester 3a 474
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Gee
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30 Jan 2014 07:06 |
Cant get into this record for some reason
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about George Hy Tolley
Name: George Hy Tolley
Arrival Date: 17 Oct 1908
Birth Date: abt 1866
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Mauretania
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30 Jan 2014 07:17 |
Name:Geo Hy TOLLEY (Outgoing of above) Date of departure:10 October 1908 Port of departure:Liverpool Passenger destination port:New York, USA Passenger destination:New York, USA Date of Birth: Age:Adult Marital status:Single Sex:Male Occupation:Labourer Passenger recorded on:Page 3 of 31 Ellen TOLLEY | Page 3 of 31 (Spinster) Marion TOLLEY | Page 3 of 31 (Child age 4) Ship: MAURETANIA Official Number: 124093 Master's name: J Pritchard Steamship Line: Cunard Where bound: New York, USA
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First Name: George Hy Last Name: Tolley Ethnicity: England, English Last Place of Residence: Keywood England (Kegworth/Keyworth?) (No, Heywood) Date of Arrival: Oct 16, 1908 Age at Arrival: 42 Gender: F Marital Status: M Ship of Travel: Mauretania Port of Departure: Liverpool Manifest Line Number: 0009
https://www.ellisisland.org/
First Name: Miss Last Name: Tolley Ethnicity: England, English Last Place of Residence: Heywood England Date of Arrival: Oct 16, 1908 Age at Arrival: Gender: F Marital Status: Ship of Travel: Mauretania Port of Departure: Liverpool Manifest Line Number: 0010
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Jan 2014 07:42 |
(think this is above Passengers, there is a Harriett 1908 Outgoing also) 1930 United States Federal Census George H Talley [George Henry Tolley] Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1866 Birthplace: England Home in 1930: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, Marital status: Married Immigration Year: 1886 Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Harriet Talley Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England View others on page George H Talley 64 Harriet Talley 64 Hugh Mallohan 21 Judson Rumsey
Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------(possibly these) EDGE Thomas Wolverhampton 6b 943 MAYNAND Harriet Wolverhampton 6b 943 Tantrum Sarah Wolverhampton 6b 943 TOLLEY George Henry Wolverhampton Chris :)
George H Tolley Birth: 1865 Death: 1931 Family links: Spouse: Harriet Tolley (1865 - 1939)* Children: Samuel Tolley (1888 - 1943)* Burial: Rose Hill Burial Park Oklahoma City Oklahoma County Oklahoma, USA
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Jan 2014 07:57 |
Marriages Sep 1922 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------- Mitchell William Tolley Leicester 7a 511 TOLLEY Neva Mitchell Leicester 7a 511
(other Daughter?, any details from Cert.)
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http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/localities.britisles.england.lei.general/6128/mb.ashx
http://www.leicestershirevillages.com/leicesterforestwest/history-forum.html?topic=658033
(items above, google)
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Catherine
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30 Jan 2014 08:37 |
This would be the birth of the Marion (aged 4yrs) travelling with William and Ellen to USA:-
Births Jun 1904 (>99%) Tolley Marion Martha Stourbridge 6c 146
Birth certificate will show who parents are.
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Catherine
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30 Jan 2014 08:50 |
My sub. with Find my Past won't let me view this and can't see anything on ancestry but this may be relevant:-
George Henry Tolley, "United Kingdom, Militia Service Records, 1806-1915" Name: George Henry Tolley Event Type: Military Service Event Year Range: 1806-1915 Event Place: United Kingdom Birthplace: Leicestershire Birth Year (Estimated): 1868
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Jan 2014 08:57 |
First name(s): George Henry Last name: TOLLEY Calculated year of birth: 1868 Parish of birth: St Margarets Town of birth: Leicester County of birth: Leicestershire Age at attestation: 24 years 4 months Attestation date: 5 September 1892 Attestation corps: 3RD BATTALION LEICESTERSHIRE REGIMENT Attestation soldier number: 4559 Discharge rank: Discharge corps: Leicestershire Regiment - 17th Foot Discharge soldier number: The National Archives reference: WO96 (3 Pages. Shoe Finisher, Married, Two Children, 9, Dennett Street as Residence 5/9/1892. Discharge 9/4/1894)
Anglo-Boer War records 1899-1902Name: TOLLEY, GH Rank: Private Rating: 7391 Unit: 3 Battalion The Leicestershire Regiment Notes: Age: Literary references: Medal roll (from National Archives WO100 series): RollPage 177 0
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Catherine
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30 Jan 2014 09:06 |
A tree on ancestry has this info for the George Henry who died in USA:-
George Henry Tolley Birth 22 Feb 1865 in Brighouse, Yorkshire, (Now West Midlands) England Death 25 Oct 1931 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, Oklahoma, USA
married to :-
Harriet Hargreaves Birth 29 Jul 1865 in Heywood, Lancashire, England Death 03 Sept 1939 in Lost at sea on HMS Athenia sank by German Sub
They also have daughter Marion although she is noted as being born in USA:-
Marion Tolley Birth 14 Feb 1904 in Denver, Colorado, USA Death 10 June 1974 in Colorado Springs, El Paso, Colorado, USA
So looks to be another George Henry Tolley :-(
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Catherine
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30 Jan 2014 09:09 |
Thanks Chris. So military records fit with 1901 census. Looks as though we've found him. :-)
Just noticed, military records state he was discharged in 1894, so still haven't found him in 1911. However, if he fought in the Boer War, also then maybe he died in the Boer War?
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Jan 2014 09:22 |
Wonders what details are given for him on 1904 Birth, or Daughters Marriages?...(looking at links posted above, seems mysterious!)
Chris :) edits (think Frederick means below)
Births Jun 1868 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------------- TOLLEY George Henry Leicester 7a 254
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Frederick
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31 Jan 2014 00:38 |
Thank you Chris for your help, Fred. :-)
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Gee
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31 Jan 2014 06:53 |
I think we have been following the wrong man, this is 'his' birth
Births Jun 1865 Tolley George Henry Halifax 9a 381
I've looked at the very well sourced trees at Ancestry and they have George' father as Samuel, mother, Martha
This is our George.
1871 England Census
Name: Geo My Tolley[Geo Hy Tolley]
Age:2
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1869
Relation:Son
Father's Name:James Tolley <<<Shoe maker, unemployed
Mother's Name:Maria Tolley
Gender:Male
Where born:Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish:All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish:All Saints
Town:Leicester
County/Island:Leicestershire
Country:England
Registration District:Leicester
Sub-registration District:West Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel:42
Household Schedule Number:43
Piece:3288 Folio:94 Page Number:7
Household Members:
James Tolley 29 Maria Tolley 25 John Tolley 6 James Tolley 4 Geo My Tolley 2 Jessy Tolley 1 Month
Maria later marries a 'White' and the children on censuses are 'step children'
Also the immigration year (for the wrong George) on the 1930 census shows as1886
His fathers death
Deaths Mar 1872 TOLLEY James 30 Leicester 7a 162
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Gee
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31 Jan 2014 07:08 |
I think this is George' brother
Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
Name:Jesse Tolley
Birth Date:28 Feb 1874
Birth Location:Lester, Lestershire, England
Relative:Gertude White
Relationship:Half Sister<<<she shows on the 1881 census with him
British Columbia, Canada, Death Index, 1872-1990
Name:Jesse Tolley
Gender:Male
Birth Year:abt 1870
Death Age:71
Death Date:12 Oct 1941
Death Location:Vancouver
Registration Number:1941-09-596507
BCA Number:B13173
GSU Number:1953633
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31 Jan 2014 08:23 |
1871 TOLLEY, James Head M 29 1842 Warwickshire (Shoe Maker Unemployed) TOLLEY, Maria Wife F 25 1846 Leicestershire TOLLEY, John Son M 6 1865 Leicestershire TOLLEY, James Son M 4 1867 Leicestershire TOLLEY, Geo Hy Son M 2 1869 Leicestershire TOLLEY, Jessy Son M 0 1871 Leicestershire Piece: 3288 Folio: 94 Page: 7 Registration District: Leicester Civil Parish: All Saints Municipal Borough: Leicester Address: Vine Street, Lower, All Saints, Leicester County: Leicestershire
1881 WHITE, John Head Married M 59 1822 Dyer General St Mary, Leicestershire WHITE, Maria Wife Married F 35 1846 Shoe Machinist St Margaret, Leicestershire TOLLEY, John Step Son Single M 16 1865 Dyers Laborer All Saints, Leicestershire TOLLEY, James Step Son Single M 14 1867 Shoe Clicker All Saints, Leicestershire TOLLEY, George Step Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar All Saints, Leicestershire TOLLEY, Jessie Step Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar All Saints, Leicestershire WHITE, Gertrude Daughter Single F 0 1881 St Mary, Leicestershire Piece: 3177 Folio: 60 Page: 36 Registration District: Leicester Civil Parish: Leicester St Mary Municipal Borough: Address: 32, Dannet St, Leicester St Mary County: Leicestershire
(adding above, is this not the one?)
Marriages Jun 1873 (>99%) --------------------------------------------- Folley Maria Leicester 7a 488 WHITE John Leicester 7a 488
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Marriages Jun 1889 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------- Pick Lois Mary Leicester 7a 374 Tolley George Henry Leicester 7a 374
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31 Jan 2014 08:32 |
Got any Certs. Fred, as you work back?...
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31 Jan 2014 08:54 |
The G H Tolley who was in the Boer War, as posted above by Chris Ho, was awarded the Queens South Africa Medal - as were all personnel who served. From that, I would guess he survived the war?? Maybe??:
First Name: G H Surname: Tolley Nationality: British Rank: Private Service Number: 7391 Campaign Medals: Queens South Africa Medal
Queen's South Africa Medal (QSA) was awarded to G H Tolley and Military Personnel who served in the Boer War in South Africa between 11th October 1899 and 31 May 1902.
ADDED: the year of the record is given as 1902, so he was presumably awarded it at the end of the war, therefore survived:
# First Name Surname Rank Record Year Unit G H Tolley Private 1902 Leicestershire Regiment
(from www.forces-war-records.co.uk )
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Catherine
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31 Jan 2014 08:58 |
I came to the same conclusion Gins. I believe the correct George Henry joined the army (see earlier posting). He looks to have fought in the Boer War, so may have died then although can't see his name on the list of casualties, and his wife is noted as married in 1911 and not widowed. In which case where was he in 1911? Can't see anything in WW1 records, but his could be one of the many destroyed in WW2? So still haven't answered the original question. :-(
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31 Jan 2014 09:11 |
Somebody has a connection, looking at the 2 links posted earlier, not sure if he is shared in any 'Members Trees', or any other names from family.
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