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Frederick

Frederick Report 30 Jan 2014 03:50

Does anyone know. The where about's of George Henry Tolley born June Q 1869 at Blaby Leicestershire England. After the 1901 Census, he was with his wife Lois Mary Pick born June Q 1870 Ibstock Leicestershire England. in 1901 census but not in the 1911 census and I carn't find a death for him.
Fred.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Jan 2014 06:47

1901 (reference)
TOLLEY, George H Head Married M 32 1869 Shoe Finisher
Leicester
TOLLEY, Lois M Wife Married F 31 1870 Hosiery Winder
Ibstock, Leicestershire
TOLLEY, Lois M Daughter F 11 1890
Leicester, Leicestershire
TOLLEY, Elizabeth A Daughter F 9 1892
Leicester, Leicestershire
Piece: 2992
Folio: 110
Page: 10
Registration District: Leicester
Civil Parish: Leicester
Municipal Borough:
Address: 2, Yard, Neal Street, Leicester
County: Leicestershire

1891
TOLLY, George H Head Married M 22 1869 Shoe Finisher
Leicestershire
TOLLY, Lois Mary Wife Married F 21 1870 Cotton Winder
Ibstock, Leicestershire
TOLLY, Lois Maria Daughter F 2 1889
Leicestershire
Piece: 2530
Folio: 112
Page: 17
Registration District: Leicester
Civil Parish: Leicester
Municipal Borough: Leicester
Address: 2, Brook Street, Leicester
County: Leicestershire


1911
TOLLEY, Lois Mary Married F 41 1870 Wool Winder Leicestershire Ibstock
ALLEN, Addie Boarder Single F 30 1881 Warwickshire Birmingham
TOLLEY, Reva Daughter F 7 1904 Lancashire Manchester
TOLLEY, Nellei Daughter Single F 15 1896 Leicestershire Leicester
RG number: RG14
Piece: 19179
Reference: RG14PN19179 RG78PN1150A RD407 SD1 ED15 SN145
Registration District: Leicester
Sub District: North West Leicester
Enumeration District: 15
Parish: Leicester
Address: 6 Count a Bay Street Leicester
County: Leicestershire
(Married 22yrs, 4 children born, 4 living)


Births Mar 1904 (>99%)
------------------------------------------
Tolley Neva Chorlton 8c 741


Births Jun 1895 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------
Tolley Nellie Leicester 7a 267


Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------(Daughter, with John Newton 1911)
CASON Rupert Cecil Leicester 7a 448
HUNT Julia Leicester 7a 448
NEWTON John Leicester 7a 448
TOLLEY Lois Maria Leicester 7a 448
TOTLEY Lois Maria Leicester 7a 448
WOODS Alice Leicester 7a 448


Deaths Dec 1946 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------
Tolley Lois M 76 Leicester 3a 474

Chris :)

Gee

Gee Report 30 Jan 2014 07:06

Cant get into this record for some reason



New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about George Hy Tolley




Name:
George Hy Tolley

Arrival Date:
17 Oct 1908

Birth Date:
abt 1866

Age:
42

Gender:
Female

Ethnicity/ Nationality:
English

Port of Departure:
Liverpool, England

Port of Arrival:
New York, New York

Ship Name:
Mauretania

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Jan 2014 07:17

Name:Geo Hy TOLLEY (Outgoing of above)
Date of departure:10 October 1908
Port of departure:Liverpool
Passenger destination port:New York, USA
Passenger destination:New York, USA
Date of Birth:
Age:Adult
Marital status:Single
Sex:Male
Occupation:Labourer
Passenger recorded on:Page 3 of 31
Ellen TOLLEY | Page 3 of 31 (Spinster)
Marion TOLLEY | Page 3 of 31 (Child age 4)
Ship: MAURETANIA
Official Number: 124093
Master's name: J Pritchard
Steamship Line: Cunard
Where bound: New York, USA

Chris :)

First Name: George Hy
Last Name: Tolley
Ethnicity: England, English
Last Place of Residence: Keywood England (Kegworth/Keyworth?) (No, Heywood)
Date of Arrival: Oct 16, 1908
Age at Arrival: 42 Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Mauretania
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Manifest Line Number: 0009

https://www.ellisisland.org/


First Name: Miss
Last Name: Tolley
Ethnicity: England, English
Last Place of Residence: Heywood England
Date of Arrival: Oct 16, 1908
Age at Arrival: Gender: F Marital Status:
Ship of Travel: Mauretania
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Manifest Line Number: 0010

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Jan 2014 07:42

(think this is above Passengers, there is a Harriett 1908 Outgoing also)
1930 United States Federal Census
George H Talley
[George Henry Tolley]
Gender:
Male
Birth Year:
abt 1866
Birthplace:
England
Home in 1930:
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma,
Marital status:
Married
Immigration Year:
1886
Relation to Head of House:
Head
Spouse's Name:
Harriet Talley
Father's Birthplace:
England
Mother's Birthplace:
England
View others on page
George H Talley 64
Harriet Talley 64
Hugh Mallohan 21
Judson Rumsey


Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------------(possibly these)
EDGE Thomas Wolverhampton 6b 943
MAYNAND Harriet Wolverhampton 6b 943
Tantrum Sarah Wolverhampton 6b 943
TOLLEY George Henry Wolverhampton

Chris :)

George H Tolley
Birth: 1865
Death: 1931
Family links:
Spouse:
Harriet Tolley (1865 - 1939)*
Children:
Samuel Tolley (1888 - 1943)*
Burial:
Rose Hill Burial Park
Oklahoma City
Oklahoma County
Oklahoma, USA

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Jan 2014 07:57

Marriages Sep 1922 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------------
Mitchell William Tolley Leicester 7a 511
TOLLEY Neva Mitchell Leicester 7a 511

(other Daughter?, any details from Cert.)

Chris :)

http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/localities.britisles.england.lei.general/6128/mb.ashx

http://www.leicestershirevillages.com/leicesterforestwest/history-forum.html?topic=658033

(items above, google)

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Jan 2014 08:37

This would be the birth of the Marion (aged 4yrs) travelling with William and Ellen to USA:-

Births Jun 1904 (>99%)
Tolley Marion Martha Stourbridge 6c 146

Birth certificate will show who parents are.

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Jan 2014 08:50

My sub. with Find my Past won't let me view this and can't see anything on ancestry but this may be relevant:-

George Henry Tolley, "United Kingdom, Militia Service Records, 1806-1915"
Name: George Henry Tolley
Event Type: Military Service
Event Year Range: 1806-1915
Event Place: United Kingdom
Birthplace: Leicestershire
Birth Year (Estimated): 1868

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Jan 2014 08:57

First name(s): George Henry
Last name: TOLLEY
Calculated year of birth: 1868
Parish of birth: St Margarets
Town of birth: Leicester
County of birth: Leicestershire
Age at attestation: 24 years 4 months
Attestation date: 5 September 1892
Attestation corps: 3RD BATTALION LEICESTERSHIRE REGIMENT
Attestation soldier number: 4559
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps: Leicestershire Regiment - 17th Foot
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO96
(3 Pages. Shoe Finisher, Married, Two Children, 9, Dennett Street as Residence 5/9/1892. Discharge 9/4/1894)


Anglo-Boer War records 1899-1902Name: TOLLEY, GH
Rank: Private
Rating: 7391
Unit: 3 Battalion The Leicestershire Regiment
Notes:
Age:
Literary references:
Medal roll (from National Archives WO100 series): RollPage
177 0

Chris :)

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Jan 2014 09:06

A tree on ancestry has this info for the George Henry who died in USA:-

George Henry Tolley
Birth 22 Feb 1865 in Brighouse, Yorkshire, (Now West Midlands) England
Death 25 Oct 1931 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, Oklahoma, USA

married to :-

Harriet Hargreaves
Birth 29 Jul 1865 in Heywood, Lancashire, England
Death 03 Sept 1939 in Lost at sea on HMS Athenia sank by German Sub

They also have daughter Marion although she is noted as being born in USA:-

Marion Tolley
Birth 14 Feb 1904 in Denver, Colorado, USA
Death 10 June 1974 in Colorado Springs, El Paso, Colorado, USA

So looks to be another George Henry Tolley :-(

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Jan 2014 09:09

Thanks Chris.
So military records fit with 1901 census. Looks as though we've found him.
:-)

Just noticed, military records state he was discharged in 1894, so still haven't found him in 1911.
However, if he fought in the Boer War, also then maybe he died in the Boer War?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Jan 2014 09:22

Wonders what details are given for him on 1904 Birth, or Daughters Marriages?...(looking at links posted above, seems mysterious!)

Chris :)

edits (think Frederick means below)

Births Jun 1868 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------------------
TOLLEY George Henry Leicester 7a 254

Frederick

Frederick Report 31 Jan 2014 00:38

Thank you Chris for your help, Fred. :-)

Gee

Gee Report 31 Jan 2014 06:53

I think we have been following the wrong man, this is 'his' birth

Births Jun 1865
Tolley George Henry Halifax 9a 381


I've looked at the very well sourced trees at Ancestry and they have George' father as Samuel, mother, Martha



This is our George.

1871 England Census

Name:
Geo My Tolley[Geo Hy Tolley]

Age:2

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1869

Relation:Son

Father's Name:James Tolley <<<Shoe maker, unemployed

Mother's Name:Maria Tolley

Gender:Male

Where born:Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish:All Saints

Ecclesiastical parish:All Saints

Town:Leicester

County/Island:Leicestershire

Country:England

Registration District:Leicester

Sub-registration District:West Leicester

ED, institution, or vessel:42

Household Schedule Number:43

Piece:3288
Folio:94
Page Number:7

Household Members:

James Tolley 29
Maria Tolley 25
John Tolley 6
James Tolley 4
Geo My Tolley 2
Jessy Tolley 1 Month


Maria later marries a 'White' and the children on censuses are 'step children'

Also the immigration year (for the wrong George) on the 1930 census shows as1886


His fathers death



Deaths Mar 1872
TOLLEY James 30 Leicester 7a 162



Gee

Gee Report 31 Jan 2014 07:08

I think this is George' brother



Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918

Name:Jesse Tolley

Birth Date:28 Feb 1874

Birth Location:Lester, Lestershire, England

Relative:Gertude White

Relationship:Half Sister<<<she shows on the 1881 census with him




British Columbia, Canada, Death Index, 1872-1990

Name:Jesse Tolley

Gender:Male

Birth Year:abt 1870

Death Age:71

Death Date:12 Oct 1941

Death Location:Vancouver

Registration Number:1941-09-596507

BCA Number:B13173

GSU Number:1953633

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 31 Jan 2014 08:23

1871
TOLLEY, James Head M 29 1842 Warwickshire (Shoe Maker Unemployed)
TOLLEY, Maria Wife F 25 1846 Leicestershire
TOLLEY, John Son M 6 1865 Leicestershire
TOLLEY, James Son M 4 1867 Leicestershire
TOLLEY, Geo Hy Son M 2 1869 Leicestershire
TOLLEY, Jessy Son M 0 1871 Leicestershire
Piece: 3288
Folio: 94
Page: 7
Registration District: Leicester
Civil Parish: All Saints
Municipal Borough: Leicester
Address: Vine Street, Lower, All Saints, Leicester
County: Leicestershire

1881
WHITE, John Head Married M 59 1822 Dyer General
St Mary, Leicestershire
WHITE, Maria Wife Married F 35 1846 Shoe Machinist
St Margaret, Leicestershire
TOLLEY, John Step Son Single M 16 1865 Dyers Laborer
All Saints, Leicestershire
TOLLEY, James Step Son Single M 14 1867 Shoe Clicker
All Saints, Leicestershire
TOLLEY, George Step Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar
All Saints, Leicestershire
TOLLEY, Jessie Step Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
All Saints, Leicestershire
WHITE, Gertrude Daughter Single F 0 1881
St Mary, Leicestershire
Piece: 3177
Folio: 60
Page: 36
Registration District: Leicester
Civil Parish: Leicester St Mary
Municipal Borough:
Address: 32, Dannet St, Leicester St Mary
County: Leicestershire

(adding above, is this not the one?)


Marriages Jun 1873 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------
Folley Maria Leicester 7a 488
WHITE John Leicester 7a 488

Chris :)


Marriages Jun 1889 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------
Pick Lois Mary Leicester 7a 374
Tolley George Henry Leicester 7a 374

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 31 Jan 2014 08:32

Got any Certs. Fred, as you work back?...

Chris :)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Jan 2014 08:54

The G H Tolley who was in the Boer War, as posted above by Chris Ho, was awarded the Queens South Africa Medal - as were all personnel who served. From that, I would guess he survived the war?? Maybe??:



First Name: G H
Surname: Tolley
Nationality: British
Rank: Private
Service Number: 7391
Campaign Medals: Queens South Africa Medal

Queen's South Africa Medal (QSA) was awarded to G H Tolley and Military Personnel who served in the Boer War in South Africa between 11th October 1899 and 31 May 1902.


ADDED:
the year of the record is given as 1902, so he was presumably awarded it at the end of the war, therefore survived:


# First Name Surname Rank Record Year Unit
G H Tolley Private 1902 Leicestershire Regiment

(from www.forces-war-records.co.uk )

Catherine

Catherine Report 31 Jan 2014 08:58

I came to the same conclusion Gins.
I believe the correct George Henry joined the army (see earlier posting).
He looks to have fought in the Boer War, so may have died then although can't see his name on the list of casualties, and his wife is noted as married in 1911 and not widowed. In which case where was he in 1911?
Can't see anything in WW1 records, but his could be one of the many destroyed in WW2?
So still haven't answered the original question. :-(

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 31 Jan 2014 09:11

Somebody has a connection, looking at the 2 links posted earlier, not sure if he is shared in any 'Members Trees', or any other names from family.

Chris :)