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27 Jan 2014 16:58 |
Hi there,
Looking for the baptism of this lady who was married in 1890:
Betsy Worrall
Spouse
England, Cheshire Non-conformist Records, 1671-1900 birth: 1840 marriage: 27 May 1890 Frodsham, Trinity Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Frodsham, Cheshire, England father: Samuel Worrall spouse: Thomas Wakefield other: James Wakefield
I have looked on the census and found this in 1871:
1871 England Census about Elizabeth Worrall Name: Elizabeth Worrall Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Samuel Worrall Mother's Name: Susannah Worrall Gender: Female Where born: Netherton, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Frodsham Lordship Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence Town: Five Crosses County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Registration District: Runcorn Sub-registration District: Frodsham ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household Schedule Number: 46 Piece: 3693 Folio: 17 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Worrall 50 Susannah Worrall 66 Elizabeth Worrall 30 Sarah Worrall 7 View Original Record
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However, I can't find a baptism ... can you help? I've looked on the IGI.
Best wishes and thank you,
Peter
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jan 2014 17:15 |
Just working back:
1861 England Census about Elizabeth Worrall Name: Elizabeth Worrall Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: 1841 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Frodsham, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Kingsley Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: Runcorn Sub-registration District: Frodsham ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 24 Piece: 2599 Folio: 109 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Henry Faulkner 45 Hannah Faulkner 41 Hannah Faulkner 7 Mary Faulkner 5 Sarah Faulkner 4 Martha Faulkner 1 Elizabeth Worrall 20 Sarah White 16 John Spruce 13
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27 Jan 2014 17:16 |
Joseph (Twin) Worrall, "England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000" Name: Joseph (Twin) Worrall Event Type: Christening Event Date: 27 Dec 1840 Event Place: , Frodsham, Cheshire, England Gender: Male Age (Formatted): Birth Date: Marital Status: Father's Name: Mother's Name: Susan Worrall Spouse's Name: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Father's Name: Spouse's Mother's Name: GS Film number: 2104548 Digital Folder Number: 004001115 Image Number: 00088
Births Dec 1840 (>99%) Ashworth Sarah Runcorn 19 192 Hughes Mary Runcorn 19 192 Manwering George Runcorn 19 192 MARTIN Sarah Ann Runcorn 19 192 NICKSON JOHN Runcorn 19 192 Norcott Ellen Runcorn 19 192 OWEN Ellen Runcorn 19 192 Robinson Joseph Runcorn 19 192 Worrall Betty Runcorn 19 192 xxxx Worrall Joseph Runcorn 19 192 xxxx
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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27 Jan 2014 17:17 |
?? Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record
PrintClose Forenames: Elizabeth (Twin) Surname: Worrall Sex: Female Christening Year: 1840 Christening Date: 27 Dec 1840 Date of Birth: Place of Birth: Father's Forenames: Father's Surname: Mother's Forename: Susan Mother's Surname: Worrall Record Group: Part 1 - 1 Record Number: 141 Parish: City or Town: Frodsham County: Cheshire Record source: Diocese of Chester parish registers of baptisms 1538-1910 Data provider: Cheshire Archives and Local Studies
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PrintClose Forenames: Joseph (Twin) Surname: Worrall Sex: Male Christening Year: 1840 Christening Date: 27 Dec 1840 Date of Birth: Place of Birth: Father's Forenames: Father's Surname: Mother's Forename: Susan Mother's Surname: Worrall Record Group: Part 1 - 1 Record Number: 142 Parish: City or Town: Frodsham County: Cheshire Record source: Diocese of Chester parish registers of baptisms 1538-1910 Data provider: Cheshire Archives and Local Studies
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ErikaH
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27 Jan 2014 17:17 |
For INFO
1841 census
Person: WORRALL, Elizabeth Address: Overton, Frodsham
WORRALL, Susanah F 35 1806 Cheshire VIEW WORRALL, Joseph M 0 (6 months) 1841 Cheshire VIEW WORRALL, Elizabeth F 0 (6 months) 1841 Cheshire
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27 Jan 2014 17:18 |
Samuel Worrall, "England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000" Name: Samuel Worrall Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 09 Mar 1841 Event Place: , Frodsham, Cheshire, England Gender: Male Age (Formatted): Birth Date: Marital Status: Father's Name: Richard Worrall Mother's Name: Spouse's Name: Susan Worrall Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Father's Name: John Worrall Spouse's Mother's Name: GS Film number: 2104549 Digital Folder Number: 004018977
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ErikaH
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27 Jan 2014 17:18 |
Forenames:Elizabeth Surname:Worrall Sex:Female Christening Year:1840 Christening Date:27 Dec 1840 Date of Birth:Age: Location:Frodsham Father's Forenames:Father's Surname: Mother's Forename:Susan Mother's Surname:Worrall Parish:City or Town:FrodshamCounty:CheshireRecord source:Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Baptisms Data provider:Cheshire Archives and Local Studies Transcriptions © Family Search
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27 Jan 2014 17:22 |
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Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: WORRALL, Samuel Registration district: Runcorn County: Cheshire Year of registration: 1841 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912 Volume no: 19 Page no: 164 MarriageFinder: Samuel Worrall married one of the following people:
DARLINGTON, Martha LEECH, Sarah SMITH, Margaret WORRALL, Susan ????????? ABRAHAM, Samuel CARRINGTON, John DODD, William
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LondonBelle
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27 Jan 2014 17:23 |
1881 census ? Looks like Betsy could be Elizabeth?
Name: Betsy Worrall Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relationship to Head: Daughter Mother: Susan Worrall Gender: Female Where born: Frodsham, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Frodsham Lordship County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address: Five Crosses Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Charwoman Registration District: Runcorn Sub-registration District: Frodsham ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3518 Folio: 23 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Susan Worrall 70 Betsy Worrall 40 Sarah Worrall 15 William Worrall 3
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27 Jan 2014 17:23 |
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Births Dec 1840 (>99%) Worrall Betty Runcorn 19 192 Worrall Joseph Runcorn 19 192
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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27 Jan 2014 17:25 |
1851 census transcription details for: Top Lane, Frodsham Lordship
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 2164 Folio: 719 Page: 18 Reg. District: Runcorn Sub District: Frodsham Parish: Frodsham Lordship Enum. District: 2B Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Top Lane, Frodsham Lordship County: Cheshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born WORRALL, Samuel Head Married M 34 1817 Stone Quarry Labourer Overton, Cheshire WORRALL, Susanah Wife Married F 50 1801 Frodsham, Cheshire WORRALL, Joseph Son M 10 1841 Scholar Overton, Cheshire WORRALL, Elizabeth Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar Overton, Cheshire WORRALL, Sarah Daughter F 4 1847 Overton, Cheshire
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jan 2014 17:25 |
1851 England Census about Elizabeth Worrall Name: Elizabeth Worrall Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Samuel Worrall Mother's Name: Susanah Worrall Gender: F (Female) Where born: Overton, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Frodsham Lordship County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration District: Runcorn Sub-registration District: Budworth ED, institution, or vessel: 2b Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 70 Piece: 2164 Folio: 719 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Worrall 34 Susanah Worrall 50 Joseph Worrall 10 Elizabeth Worrall 10 Sarah Worrall 4
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27 Jan 2014 17:28 |
Name: Sarah Worrall Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1847 Registration District: Runcorn Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 19 Page: 224
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Peter
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27 Jan 2014 18:27 |
Thank you for this - so it seems as though Betsey/Betty/Elizabeth was the illegitimate daughter of Susan Worrall, and along with a twin, Joseph, she was baptised in 1840.
Her parents, Susan Worrall and Samuel Worrall were married a few months later.
I wonder if Susan and Samuel were cousins? I'll have a look - and thank you for this.
PLEASE DON'T LOOK INTO Samuel's parents etc. They were Richard and Hannah Whalley Worrall ...I carried out a post into them recently. Betsy however, then married a distant uncle (Thomas Wakefield), from another line ... wow, complex!
Thank you,
Peter
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LondonBelle
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27 Jan 2014 18:33 |
Possible burial for Susannah?
Name: Susan Worrall Gender: Female Death Age: 80 Burial Date: 22 Aug 1882 Burial Place: , Frodsham, Cheshire, England Burial Age: 80y FHL Film Number: 2104550
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Peter
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27 Jan 2014 18:34 |
It seems as though Susan Worrall was baptised in 1805 to John Worrall and Elizabeth Cooper (married in Frodsham in 1799).
Could someone please look to see if they can find John's baptism. I have a possibility or two but would like a second opinion.
Thank you,
Peter
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LondonBelle
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27 Jan 2014 18:40 |
Possible baptism?
Name: Susan Worrall Gender: Female Baptism Date: 14 Jul 1805 Baptism Place: Frodsham, Cheshire, England Father: John Worrall Mother: Elizabeth FHL Film Number: 1655670
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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27 Jan 2014 18:40 |
have you found John Worrall on any census to give an idea of his birth year?
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27 Jan 2014 18:49 |
??? 41 England Census about John Worrall Name: John Worrall Age: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1776 Gender: Male Where born: Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Frodsham Hundred: Eddisbury (Second Division) County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address:
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View Image Registration District: Runcorn Sub-registration District: Frodsham Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 97 Book: 8 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age John Worrall 65 Betty Worrall 60 Joseh Worrall 20 Joseph Worrall 5 Ellen Worrall 2
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 97; Book: 8; Civil Parish: Frodsham; County: Cheshire; Enumeration District: 6; Page: 3; Line: 10; GSU roll: 241237.
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27 Jan 2014 18:51 |
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Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record
PrintClose Forenames: John Surname: Worrall Sex: Male Christening Year: 1777 Christening Date: 20 Jun 1777 Date of Birth: Place of Birth: Father's Forenames: Samuel Father's Surname: Worrall Mother's Forename: Rachel Mother's Surname: Record Group: Part 1 - 43 Record Number: 410 Parish: St. Mary City or Town: Birkenhead County: Cheshire Record source: Diocese of Chester parish registers of baptisms 1538-1910 Data provider: Cheshire Archives and Local Studies
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