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Frustratingly we have been unable to locate a death for Walter George Brain born 1873 who died between 1897 and 1901 in Bristol Gloucestershire. His widow was Fanny and he may have been known as George. He is not obvious on any local census for St George Bristol in either 1881/1891. The couple married in 1895 and we are waiting a marriage certificate to confirm his father. His son was born in 1898 but wife Fanny was a widow in 1901. Could someone be kind enough to do a probate search?

Nothing coming up Marion.

Do you know for certain that he had died, or could Fanny have been calling herself a widow on the 1901 because they had, in fact separated?

Any idea of his occupation?

Not until we get the marriage certificate. She remarried shortly after 1901 and relocated to Somerset. Nothing is known of Walter George her first husband..its a complete mystery!

Was wondering about the Boer War, this name came up on Findmypast but subscription has just run out! The initial A could be Archibald the name of his first son.

Last name First name(s) Soldier number Regiment Record
Brain W G A 35544 Imperial Yeomanry

UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949


Name:W G A Brain

Campaign or Service:South Africa - Second Boer War

Service Date:1899-1902

Service Location:South Africa

Regiment or Unit Name:Imperial Yeomanry

Regimental Number:35544



I don't think this is your man as he is declared medically unfit 11/01/1902

Thanks for all your help.

Is this his birth

Civil Registration event: Birth
Print Close Name: BRAIN, Walter George
Registration district: Clifton
County: Gloucestershire
Year of registration: 1873
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 6A
Page no: 103

Are you sure his son was born in 1898? I can't see a birth in that year for someone called Archibald Brain.

Kath. x

Marriage cert for Ref....

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Print Close Name: BRAIN, Walter George
Registration district: Bristol
County: Gloucestershire
Year of registration: 1895
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 6A
Page no: 110
MarriageFinder: Walter George Brain married one of the following people:


CHUDLEIGH, Alberta
<<<<<<TREBY, Fanny Henrietta
BERRY, Frank

On the original image of this 1901 the grandson Frederick G's surname appears to be Brain, not Bronin:

TROBY, John Head Married M 58 1843 Boot Finisher Plymouth, Devonshire
TROBY, Fanny Wife Married F 53 1848 Plymouth, Devonshire
TROBY, John Son Single M 32 1869 Boot Finisher Plymouth, Devonshire
BRAIN, Fanny Daughter Widow F 26 1875 Boot Machinist Bristol, Gloucestershire
TROBY, Nelly Daughter Single F 19 1882 Boot Machinist Paulton, Somersetshire
HAND, Harry Grand Son Single M 12 1889 Radstock, Somersetshire
BRONIN, Frederick G Grand Son Single M 2 1899 Kingswood, Gloucestershire

Piece: 2394 Folio: 136 Page: 22
Registration District: Bristol
Civil Parish: Bristol

Address: Glenburn Road, Bristol County: Gloucestershire

Have you looked on Freebmd for a death for Walter G Brain as there is one in Kingswood but died 1950..

Deaths Mar 1950 (>99%)
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Brain Walter G 72 Kingswood 7b 590

Born around 1877/8

Thanks Sue your research is what we already have exhausted. many times over. First son Archibold John Walter Brain was born 1896 died the same year. Second son Frederick was born 1898. As you have shown 1901 shows his mother Fanny Brain as a widow living with parents. She marries Harry Davis in 1906 in Clutton. Troby should be Treby. Have exhausted all the deaths before 1901 for Walter George Brain, so now looking at possibility that he went missing presumed dead?

Marion, did the details on that 1950 death certificate positively eliminate him as being yours? (Difficult, I know).

EDIT: I see the 1950 death had wrong middle name

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Walter Gilbert Brain
Probate Date: 1 May 1950
Death Date: 13 Mar 1950
Death Place: Gloucestershire, England
Registry: Bristol

How did you get to Walter George's birth year of 1873?

There is a Walter Brain on the 1901 census, born 1873 Bitton. With him is an Eliza Brain

I can't see a marriage for this couple and neither can I find them on the 1911 census?

It is possible that Walter and Fanny separated

His possible Birth.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Walter George Brain Name: Walter George Brain
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1873
Registration District: Clifton
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 103

Name:BRAIN, Walter G
Unit:Wiltshire Regiment
Rank:Private
Number:10000
Year:1916
Volume :I.58
Page:115
Record source:GRO War Death Army Other Ranks (1914 to 1921)

(noted above, but as below Medal Index, NA)


Medal card of Braine, Walter
Corps
Regiment No
Wiltshire Regiment 10000 Private

Chris :)

Could someone with Ancestry please check this chap out..thanks.

Boer War 1899-1902 - Soldier details
Name: Brain, W
Rank: Private
Soldier number:
Unit: 2 Battalion The Gloucestershire Regiment
Notes:
Age:

Think it maybe a different one from above.
Literary references: Honours and Awards of the South African War 81

think this is the Walter born Bitton found on the 1901

could be the Walter George Brain birth reg 1873

Name: Walter Brain
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relationship to Head: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Oldland Bitton, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Bitton
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Oldland Common
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration District: Keynsham
Sub-registration District: Bitton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2445
Folio: 81
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Summerill 57
Mary Summerill 55
Alfred C. Summerill 19
Edwin Brain 12
Elizabeth Brain 9
Walter Brain 7

Mavis

I think the lad on the 1916 war death was too young, as per CWGC version:

BRAINE, WALTER GEORGE

Rank: Private
Service No: 10000
Date of Death: 26/07/1916
Age: 22
Regiment/Service: Wiltshire Regiment 6th Bn.
Grave Reference1: IX. K. 7.
Cemetery: FLATIRON COPSE CEMETERY, MAMETZ

Additional Information:
Son of Alfred David Braine, of Biddestone, Chippenham.

Thankyou MC, one of those surnames that gains and loses an E!.

Puzzler...

Chris :)