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Gin, thanks for 1891.
Walter George Brain was born 18 July 1873 at Dundridge Farm St George Bristol, to George and Hester Brain (nee Hudd...father a coal miner.

Walter George Brain married Fanny Henrietta Treby in the Register Office Bristol on 23 Dec1895.
They were both living at 12 Pritchard Street Bristol
Witnesses
Maud Garland
Fred Lovell

Here they are in 1891

What details are on the marriage certificate please?



1891 England Census

Name:George Brain

Age:17

Estimated birth year:abt 1874

Relation:Son

Father's Name:George Brain

Mother's name:Hester Brain

Gender:Male

Where born:St George, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish:Oldland

Ecclesiastical parish:Holy Trinity

County/Island:Gloucestershire

Registration district:Keynsham

Sub-registration district:Oldland

ED, institution, or vessel:10

Piece:1943

Folio:63

Page Number:34

Household Members:

George Brain 41
Hester Brain 37
Martha Brain 19
George Brain 17
William Brain 15
Samuel Brain 11
Alice Brain 5
Herbert Brain 7/12

Now have marriage and birth for Walter and found him in 1881 Name: George Brain . Unable to proceed further than 1881 with this family. Can anyone help to find any of them on any census after 1881? We know that Walter George must have died about 1898 but no sign of a death anywhere.
His father was George Brain
Age (Original): 35
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1846
Birthplace: Bitton, Gloucestershire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coalminer
Address: Hanham Lane
Event Place: Oldland (Gloucs), Somersetshire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341589
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 2447 / 75
Page Number: 5
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head George Brain M 35 Bitton, Gloucestershire, England
Wife Hester Brain (nee Hudd) F 30 Kingswood Hill, Gloucestershire,
Daughter Martha Brain F 9 Kingswood Hill, Gloucestershire, Eng
Son George Brain M 7 Kingswood Hill, Gloucestershire, England
Son William Brain M 6 Kingswood Hill, Gloucestershire, England
Son Samuel Brain M 2 Kingswood Hill, Gloucestershire, England
Daughter Alice Brain F 1 Kingswood Hill, Gloucestershire, England

Haven't been on for a few days but nice to see your contributions. We are still awaiting a marriage for Walter and Fanny and unable to proceed until we can find grooms father. It will probably be easier to work back and may give us a clue on his occupation, it's so easy to speculate without more information.

Thankyou MC, one of those surnames that gains and loses an E!.

Puzzler...

Chris :)

I think the lad on the 1916 war death was too young, as per CWGC version:

BRAINE, WALTER GEORGE

Rank: Private
Service No: 10000
Date of Death: 26/07/1916
Age: 22
Regiment/Service: Wiltshire Regiment 6th Bn.
Grave Reference1: IX. K. 7.
Cemetery: FLATIRON COPSE CEMETERY, MAMETZ

Additional Information:
Son of Alfred David Braine, of Biddestone, Chippenham.

think this is the Walter born Bitton found on the 1901

could be the Walter George Brain birth reg 1873

Name: Walter Brain
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relationship to Head: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Oldland Bitton, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Bitton
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Oldland Common
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration District: Keynsham
Sub-registration District: Bitton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2445
Folio: 81
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Summerill 57
Mary Summerill 55
Alfred C. Summerill 19
Edwin Brain 12
Elizabeth Brain 9
Walter Brain 7

Mavis

Could someone with Ancestry please check this chap out..thanks.

Boer War 1899-1902 - Soldier details
Name: Brain, W
Rank: Private
Soldier number:
Unit: 2 Battalion The Gloucestershire Regiment
Notes:
Age:

Think it maybe a different one from above.
Literary references: Honours and Awards of the South African War 81

Name:BRAIN, Walter G
Unit:Wiltshire Regiment
Rank:Private
Number:10000
Year:1916
Volume :I.58
Page:115
Record source:GRO War Death Army Other Ranks (1914 to 1921)

(noted above, but as below Medal Index, NA)


Medal card of Braine, Walter
Corps
Regiment No
Wiltshire Regiment 10000 Private

Chris :)

His possible Birth.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Walter George Brain Name: Walter George Brain
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1873
Registration District: Clifton
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 103

There is a Walter Brain on the 1901 census, born 1873 Bitton. With him is an Eliza Brain

I can't see a marriage for this couple and neither can I find them on the 1911 census?

It is possible that Walter and Fanny separated

Marion, did the details on that 1950 death certificate positively eliminate him as being yours? (Difficult, I know).

EDIT: I see the 1950 death had wrong middle name

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Walter Gilbert Brain
Probate Date: 1 May 1950
Death Date: 13 Mar 1950
Death Place: Gloucestershire, England
Registry: Bristol

How did you get to Walter George's birth year of 1873?

Thanks Sue your research is what we already have exhausted. many times over. First son Archibold John Walter Brain was born 1896 died the same year. Second son Frederick was born 1898. As you have shown 1901 shows his mother Fanny Brain as a widow living with parents. She marries Harry Davis in 1906 in Clutton. Troby should be Treby. Have exhausted all the deaths before 1901 for Walter George Brain, so now looking at possibility that he went missing presumed dead?

Have you looked on Freebmd for a death for Walter G Brain as there is one in Kingswood but died 1950..

Deaths Mar 1950 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Brain Walter G 72 Kingswood 7b 590

Born around 1877/8

On the original image of this 1901 the grandson Frederick G's surname appears to be Brain, not Bronin:

TROBY, John Head Married M 58 1843 Boot Finisher Plymouth, Devonshire
TROBY, Fanny Wife Married F 53 1848 Plymouth, Devonshire
TROBY, John Son Single M 32 1869 Boot Finisher Plymouth, Devonshire
BRAIN, Fanny Daughter Widow F 26 1875 Boot Machinist Bristol, Gloucestershire
TROBY, Nelly Daughter Single F 19 1882 Boot Machinist Paulton, Somersetshire
HAND, Harry Grand Son Single M 12 1889 Radstock, Somersetshire
BRONIN, Frederick G Grand Son Single M 2 1899 Kingswood, Gloucestershire

Piece: 2394 Folio: 136 Page: 22
Registration District: Bristol
Civil Parish: Bristol

Address: Glenburn Road, Bristol County: Gloucestershire

Marriage cert for Ref....

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Print Close Name: BRAIN, Walter George
Registration district: Bristol
County: Gloucestershire
Year of registration: 1895
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 6A
Page no: 110
MarriageFinder: Walter George Brain married one of the following people:


CHUDLEIGH, Alberta
<<<<<<TREBY, Fanny Henrietta
BERRY, Frank

Are you sure his son was born in 1898? I can't see a birth in that year for someone called Archibald Brain.

Kath. x

Is this his birth

Civil Registration event: Birth
Print Close Name: BRAIN, Walter George
Registration district: Clifton
County: Gloucestershire
Year of registration: 1873
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 6A
Page no: 103

Thanks for all your help.

UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949


Name:W G A Brain

Campaign or Service:South Africa - Second Boer War

Service Date:1899-1902

Service Location:South Africa

Regiment or Unit Name:Imperial Yeomanry

Regimental Number:35544



I don't think this is your man as he is declared medically unfit 11/01/1902