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Does anybody out there know if there are plans for Scotland to let us see their 1911 census. Either on here on on Ancestry? :-(

In particular I want to see the 1911 whereabouts of Agnes Carney born c 1892 and living in Ayrshire with father Alexander and Mother May. I have seen the 1901 census which says that Agnes was born in England. Did Scotland actually allow a weekend of being able to see their 1911 census maybe to mark the royal diamond jubilee or some other royal celebration?

Hi Jennifer,
Have you misread the 1901 return?

The 1901 census for the family is in Inch ,Wigtownshire
This return states that Agnes was born in Ayrshire
Dunaskir is a mis transcription but a check on Scotlands People has a corresponding birth registered in Dalmellington, Ayrshire

Scotlands People is the only site where the Scottish 1911 census is available

1901 Scotland Census about Agnes Carney
Name: Agnes Carney
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Alexander Carney
Mother's Name: May Carney
Gender: Female
Where born: dunaskir, Ayrshire**
Registration number: 886
Registration District: Inch**
Civil Parish: Inch
County: Wigtownshire***
Address: Mahaar Cottage No 1
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 8
Household Schedule Number: 29
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1901_441
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Carney 52 ( place of birth: Leswalt, Wigtownshire)
May Carney 50 (place of birth: Newton Stewart, Wigtownshire)
Mariann Carney 25
Frances Carney 22
Janet Carney 20
Katherine Carney 16
Agnes Carney 9
Allan Carney 14
Hugh Carrey 75

By searching the 1911 census on SP for matches:

Agnes Cairney age 19
Inch, Wigtownshire
Other people in the household include names of:
Alexander and Marion.
( an Ancestry member has annotated the 1901 return to say that the mother May Carney, is.... Marion May Wilson

Thanks Glasgow Lass and Happy New Year. That 1911 census on SP does not mention Dalmellington then? Are there any occupations for Agnes and her parents please? Are all the siblings still living with the parents? My Agnes is actually Agnes Newlands Carney and she came to England some time before 1926 when she married a Victor Wright in Southampton. Maybe there was another birth in a different part of Scotland. Thanks again for your help. Scotlands People transcriptions would help us sassenacks!
regards, jennifer

Jennifer -
If you register with SP and buy only £7-worth of credits, you can have a look at the 1911 census yourself.

Re Agnes's birth:
There is no birth record on SP for an Agnes Newlands Carney (or variation), nor for an Agnes N Carney or variation, 1885-1900.
There are 102 Agnes Carney's born in the whole of Scotland in that period.
11 of them were born in Ayrshire (below). If any of these look likely (presumably one of the two Dalmellington births) you can view the original record on SP. Then you would see the parents' names, to verify. Your £7 would provide enough credits for that as well as looking at the 1911 census:

1 1887 CAIRNEY AGNES F KILMARNOCK (AYR) /AYR 597/00 0462
2 1885 CAIRNS AGNES F LOUDOUN /AYR 603/00 0124
3 1888 CAIRNS AGNES F DALRY (AYR) /AYR 587/00 0054
4 1889 CAIRNS AGNES F STEVENSTON /AYR 615/00 0151
5 1893 CAIRNS AGNES F KILBIRNIE /AYR 596/00 0098
6 1892 CAIRNS AGNES EVELINE F KILWINNING /AYR 599/00 0125
7 1895 CAIRNS AGNES JACKSON F KILMARNOCK (AYR) /AYR 597/00 0408
8 1893 CAIRNS AGNES MORRISON F KILWINNING /AYR 599/00 0256
9 1891 CARNEY AGNES F DALMELLINGTON /AYR 586/00 0164
10 1892 CARNEY AGNES F DALMELLINGTON /AYR 586/00 0055
11 1898 CARTNEY AGNES F KILMARNOCK (AYR) /AYR 597/00 0430

Dunaskir is a mistranscription of Dunaskin, which is near the village of Dalmellington.


"In 1848 the Dalmellington Iron Co opened a large ironworks at Dunaskin near Dalmellington. The works flourished into the twentieth century, but by 1921 had become obsolete and was closed during a strike. The furnaces were demolished and in 1928 a brickworks was established on the site with the 1847 blowing enginehouse converted for brickmaking machinery. The clay was drawn from seams found in the local coal mines. Brickmaking continued until 1976 when demand was so low that 2.5 million bricks were stockpiled on site and production ceased."
http://www.theviewfromthenorth.org/dunaskin-brickworks

Jennifer -
The mention of Inch in the 1911 census, posted by GlasgowLass, is just where the family were living - it doesn't mean that's where Agnes was born.

Thanks for all that information ArgyllGran. I shall proceed once I have corresponded with descendants of Agnes in Melbourne Australia as they may know names of Agnes's siblings which would nail it down better - and then SP here I come.
Happy New Year CheshireGran - aka Jennifer

Hello again Glasgow Lass and Argyll Gran,
I have an apology to make. The Agnes Carnie I was looking for was born in 1901 in Glasgow and her father was William Paterson Carnie. I got her correct age by sending for her marriage cert. Sorry for posting the wrong info.
jennifer

Is she likely to be on the 1901 census?

What was her father's occupation?

Who was her mother?

1911 England Census about Agnes Carnie
Name: Agnes Carnie
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Glasgow, Fifeshire
Civil Parish: Eastleigh
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: 172 Chamberlayne Road, Eastleigh, Hants
Occupation: School
Registration District: South Stoneham
Registration District Number: 100
Sub-registration District: South Stoneham
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household Schedule Number: 170
Piece: 6061
Household Members:
Name Age
William Carnie 45
Agnes Carnie 46
Mary Carnie 19
William Carnie 18
Charlotte Carnie 13
Agnes Carnie 9
Maggie Carnie 7

Is this her?

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 about William Paterson Carnie
Name: William Paterson Carnie
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1 Oct 1865
Birth Place: Scoonie,Fife,Scotland
Father: James Carnie
Mother: Barclay Craig
FHL Film Number: 6035516

Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 about Charlotte Barclay Craig
Name: Charlotte Barclay Craig
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 6 Aug 1848
Marriage Place: Dundee,Angus,Scotland
Spouse: James Cairney
FHL Film Number: 993404

THe 1911 census as posted by Helen from FMP to show places of birth and occupations

1911 census transcription details for: 172 Chamberlayne Road Eastleigh

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN6061 RG78PN276 RD100 SD2 ED13 SN170
Reg. District: South Stoneham
Sub District: South Stoneham
Parish: Eastleigh
Enum. District: 13
Address: 172 Chamberlayne Road Eastleigh
County: Hampshire
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
CARNIE, William Head Married M 45 1866 Iron Moulder Lewes Fife Resident
CARNIE, Jones Wife Married 22 years F 46 1865 Burntisland Fife Resident
CARNIE, Mary Daughter Single F 19 1892 Glasgow Resident
CARNIE, William Son Single M 18 1893 Steam Hammer Driver Glasgow Resident
CARNIE, Charlotte Daughter F 13 1898 School Glasgow Resident
CARNIE, Agnes Daughter F 9 1902 School Glasgow Resident
CARNIE, Maggie Daughter F 7 1904 School Glasgow Resident

EDIT - 7 children born, 6 still living, 1 has died

Which should give you this in 1901

1901 census transcription details for: 10, Kemp Street, Glasgow

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 644
Folio: 75
Page: 17
Reg. District: St Rollox
Sub District:
Parish: Glasgow
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 10, Kemp Street, Glasgow
County: Lanarkshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CARNIE, Agnes Head Married F 36 1865 Wife Of Soldier On Active Service Burntisland, Fifeshire
CARNIE, James Son M 11 1890 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire
CARNIE, Mary Daughter F 9 1892 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire
CARNIE, William Son M 8 1893 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire
CARNIE, Charlotte Daughter F 3 1898 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
CARNIE, Agnes Daughter F 0 (1 MONTH) 1901 Glasgow, Lanarkshire

1891 census transcription details for: Ratho Terrace, Glasgow

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 644
Folio: 87
Page: 20
Reg. District: St Rollox
Sub District:
Parish: Glasgow
Enum. District: 87
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Ratho Terrace, Glasgow
County: Lanarkshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CARNIE, William Head Married M 25 1866 Iron Moulder Leven, Fife
CARNIE, Agnes Wife Married F 26 1865 Burntisland, Fife
CARNIE, James Son Unmarried M 1 1890 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
ALLAN, Jane Boarder Married F 50 1841 Master Mariners Wife Dundee, Forfar
ALLAN, Janet Boarder Unmarried F 16 1875 Master Mariners Daur Kirkcaldy, Fife

I wonder if this is William? Problems with my computer at the moment, unable to open record to see images

British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription

First name(s): William
Last name: CAIRNIE
Calculated year of birth: 1867
Parish of birth: Scone
Town of birth: Leven
County of birth: Fife
Age at attestation: 34 years 2 months
Attestation date: 31 January 1901
Attestation corps: Highland Light Infantry
Attestation soldier number: 8384
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps:
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO97

Hello Reggie, Agnes's father's occupation was mechanical engineer. He was William Patterson Carney. The family moved to Hampshire and that is why the marriage of Agnes Newlands Carney aged 22 yrs to Victor Wright aged 25yrs on 3 June 1923 was in Southampton. Her father was described as deceased on the marriage cert. Her mother was also called Agnes (Elder)
Thanks for all of your help & sorry not to have been on line this morning (hospital appt.)
Yours gratefully
Jennifer

Computer problem sorted, thank heavens for "a man that knows"

William is a Moulder at attestation. Married. Currently in the Militia - 2nd (Batt?) HLI
Has previously served 12 months 1st HLI (? purchased) discharge
5ft 91/4 " ,150 lbs, chest Min 36", max 371/2", Fresh complexion, Grey eyes, Dark brown hair. Presbyterian. No distinguishing marks. Medically examined and pronounced fit at Glasgow 25th January. Attested 31st January, attached to HLI 12th February 1901. Discharged as Lance Corporal 4th June 1902.

Served Home 31.1.01 - 14.3.01 and South Africa 15.3.01 - 4.6.02

Awarded Queen's South African medal with clasps inscribed "Cape Colony" and "Orange Free State"

NOK - wife Agnes Newlands 10 Kemp Street, Springburn ***********

NOTE*********Newlands was wife's middle name

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You searched for: Male Surname: "carnie"; Male Forename: "william"; Male Forename Option: Prefix; Female Surname: ""; Female Surname Option: Exact; Female Forename: "agnes"; Female Forename Option: Prefix; Year From: 1885; Year To: 1900;

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Year Surname(M) Forename(M) Surname(F) Forename(F) District City/County/MR GROSData

1889 CARNIE WILLIAM ELDER AGNES NEWLANDS BURNTISLAND /FIFE 411/00 0003

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