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Excellent! and one can only wish you well in tracing your Richard (and Sarah) now :-)
At least you can be pretty sure that there were a Frederick and a Thomas in his family, as brothers or as father and brother. I have not managed to find any trace of them in 1841 or 1851, ... wait, maybe looking in the wrong places
'Atalanta was built by Thomas White, at Cowes, in 1836 and had sleeping berths for 150 passengers'
In 1851 there is a widowed Sarah White 44 born Isle of Wight, in Cowes, whose eldest Harry 21 son is a shipwright's apprentice. But no ... in 1841 they are in Northwood on the Isle of Wight and father George is a brewer ...
Not knowing place names on the Isle of Wight I searched 1841 for White in Hampshire with keyword Wight.
And look what I found.
Name: THOMAS WHITE
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1774
(not born in county)
Civil Parish: Northwood
County/Island: Hampshire
Registration District: Isle of Wight
Sub-registration District: Cowes
Thomas White 67 SHIP BUILDER
Elizabeth White 25
Thomas White 21 Ship Builder
James Beck 23 ditto
Hannah Peake 40 not born in county
Sarah Peake 60 not born in county
Thomas Cornfield 30 Optician
Sophia Coss 18 Female Servant
I would bet that this Thomas Sr was your Richard's father, in fact I would bet quite a lot :-)
unfortunately he seems to be widowed. I wonder whether Sarah Peake was his mother-in-law and Hannah his wife's sister.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NJVM-35Q
Name: Thomas White
Spouse's Name: Susanne Peake
Event Date: 02 Apr 1809
Event Place: Whitechapel, Middlesex, England
Marital Status: Widowed
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00066-5
which would most likely mean that Susanne was not your Richard's mother as he was most likely born before 1809, although dob 1806 in 1851 could have meant as late as early 1811.
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hm
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N6GB-T52
Name: Thomas White
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 03 Oct 1819
Christening Place: Newchurch, Hampshire, England
Father's Name: Thomas White
Mother's Name: Hanah
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01874-5
I think it's possible for a Susannah to be called Hannah. Could Hannah Peake in 1841 be Susanne Peake from the marriage record to Thomas White, simply recorded under her mother's surname via a not uncommon sort of enumerator misunderstanding?
But here is the household in 1851 in Newchurch, Cowes
Thomas White 77 born Broadstairs Kent, retired shipbuilder
Caroline White 23 granddaughter
Sarah Peake 81 born Manston Kent, sister-in-law unmarried
Hannah Peake 56 born Ramsgate Kent, sister-in-law unmarried
Henry Bell Brown 42 visitor Wesleyan minister
Emily Salter 23 servant
Caroline Beere 17 servant
a possibility ... it happened in my family right around 1820 ... it was illegal for a man to marry his deceased wife's sister. Was Thomas Sr actually partnered with Hannah Peake, the sister of his deceased wife Susanne?
searching in that batch at familysearch
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=+batch_number:C01874-5
finds only the one baptism, Thomas 1819 with parents Thomas and Hanah.
Richard would most likely have been born in Middlesex perhaps.
In 1861 Thomas R White, 41, ship builder, born Cowes, is in Portsmouth with wife Anne and children Elizabeth and Tom.
thiswould seem likely to be the death of Thomas Sr (but something in the data has been mistranscribed)
Deaths Mar 1859
White Thomas I.Wight 2b 331
and the death of Sarah Peake (much older sister of Hannah)
Deaths Mar 1856
Peake Sarah I Wight 2b 292
to which someone has added a postem at freebmd ... and left no contact info !!!
'Isle of Wight Observer (Ryde, England), Saturday, March 01, 1856; Issue 183. at the residence of Thomas White, esq, Medina Docks, Miss Sarah Peake, aged 86 years, respected through life as a consistant Christian.'
that is the only Peake event in Isle of Wight until that point.
You could always add another postem to that record asking for information about the family ... and giving a (permanent) email address :-) It is very possible though that the person who added the info was just a local researcher or some such.
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just collecting info :-)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JW8V-Q43
Name: Hannah Peake
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 07 Jun 1795
Christening Place: EBENEZER-INDEPENDENT, RAMSGATE, KENT, ENGLAND
Birth Date: 30 May 1794
Father's Name: Stephen Peake
Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06853-1
searching that batch, that couple also had Ann 1787 (must have died), John 1789, George 1791, Ann 1792 ... but I don't find any record for a Susan* Peake in Kent.
Sarah was 30 years older than Hannah. They must have had different mothers. To marry a widower born c1774 in 1809, Susanne should have been born before 1788 ...
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNFN-YJG ?
Name: Stephen Peake
Spouse's Name: Mary Dixon
Event Date: 31 Dec 1786
Event Place: St. Lawrence, Kent, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I06790-7
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NJ3Z-GQ7
Name: Susannah Peake
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 13 Dec 1772
Christening Place: St. Lawrence, Kent, England
Father's Name: Stephen Peake
Mother's Name: Jane Peake
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00979-2
and her sister Sarah
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JSQL-6Q7
Name: Sarah Peake
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 03 Feb 1771
Christening Place: St. Laurence, Kent, England
Father's Name: Stephen Peake
Mother's Name: Jane
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I06892-7
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JZLF-ZMF
Name: Susannah White
Gender: Female
Burial Place: Cowes, Hampshire, England
Death Date: 21 Mar 1835
Age: 63
Birth Date: 1772
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B05199-4
and there we are for Susannah Peake White I think:
born in Kent 1772
married to Thomas White the shipbulder in Middlesex in 1809
died in Hampshire 1835
Her parents were Stephen and Jane Peake.
Her half-sister Hannah's mother was Mary Dixon.
There seems to have been some mix-up on Thomas Sr's baptism record showing Hannah as his mother ... unless the mixing up was going on in real life! - edit - oops I meant Thomas Jr's baptism record 1819, his mother should have been Susannah Peake White whose younger sister was Hannah Peake.
but still Susannah would not likely have been your Richard's mother since he was likely born before that 1809 marrage.
so the question is, who was the previous wife of Thomas White Sr, born abt 1774 we don't know where, married the second (?) time in Whitechapel in 1809.
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wow thats a lot to take in and absorb.
thank so much, your time is really appreciated
best wishes
maddie
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