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mandy
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25 Nov 2013 18:47 |
hi all i can find my grandmothers fathers name but i cannot find his wife any clues please? :-(
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GlitterBaby
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25 Nov 2013 18:48 |
Can you post some info please
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mandy
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25 Nov 2013 19:12 |
the lady i am looking for is married to william henry owensthier daughter florence edith owens married nicholas keast 1913 in dalton in furness i believe , no idea of any details other than fathers name for florence , am trying to find any of her siblings if there are any and her ancestors , florence was christened in dalton on 16th november 1897
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25 Nov 2013 19:13 |
Occupation of father from the marriage cert ?
Witnesses ?
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MarieCeleste
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25 Nov 2013 19:17 |
There was obviously problems with the mother's name on the baptism transcription ......
Florence Edith Owens, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Florence Edith Owens Gender: Female Christening Date: 16 Nov 1897 Christening Place: Dalton-in-Furness, Lancashire, England Father's Name: William Henry Owens
Mother's Name: ...renisa ????
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03459-8 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1657404 Reference ID: item 7
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NN6M-452 : accessed 25 Nov 2013), Florence Edith Owens, 16 Nov 1897.
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Andrew
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25 Nov 2013 19:20 |
1901
William H Owen 32 Urenica Owen 23 Born Isle of Man Florence E Owen 5 William H Owen 3 Wlater J Owen 2
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patchem
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25 Nov 2013 19:21 |
Florence? Births Mar 1896 Owens Florence Edith Barrow F. 8e 803
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MarieCeleste
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25 Nov 2013 19:24 |
Full details of 1901:
OWEN, William H Head Married M 32 1869 Iron Ore Miner Dalton in F, Lancashire OWEN, Urenica Wife Married F 23 1878 Isle of Man OWEN, Florence E Daughter F 5 1896 Barrow in F, Lancashire OWEN, William H Son M 3 1898 Dalton in F, Lancashire OWEN, Walter J Son M 2 1899 Dalton in F, Lancashire
Piece: 5338 Folio: 30 Page: 52 Registration District: Ulverston Civil Parish: Dalton in Furness
Address: 41, King Street, Dalton In Furness County: Lancashire
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Andrew
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25 Nov 2013 19:24 |
The marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1896 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cowan Ureniea Barrow F. 8e 1088 Scan available - click to view Owens William Henry Barrow F. 8e 1088
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mandy
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25 Nov 2013 19:26 |
william henry owens dob is 1859 if that helps
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patchem
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25 Nov 2013 19:26 |
Marriages Mar 1896 Cowan Ureniea Barrow F. 8e 1088 Owens William Henry Barrow F. 8e 1088
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Andrew
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25 Nov 2013 19:31 |
Possible 1881?
Isle of Man
James Sayle 33 Elizabeth Sayle 36 William Cawe 13 Robert H. Cawe 9 Emily Cawe 8 Urenia Cawe 5
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MarieCeleste
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25 Nov 2013 19:32 |
Mandy, it looks like 1869 on the 1901 census, do you know where 1859 came from?
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GlitterBaby
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25 Nov 2013 19:34 |
What research have you done to arrive at birth year of 1859 for William
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25 Nov 2013 19:36 |
The first wife has died if the second marriage in 1910 is correct to Mary Pascoe
1911 Class: RG14; Piece: 25627
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25 Nov 2013 19:38 |
I think this may be William Henry in 1881, he seems to live in an iron ore mining community:
OWENS, Caroline Head Widow F 49 1832 Holywell, Flintshire, Wales OWENS, Elles Son Single M 20 1861 Engine Driver (Mining) Dalton, Lancashire OWENS, William H Son Single M 17 1864 Engine Driver (Mining) Dalton, Lancashire OWENS, Joseph Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar Dalton, Lancashire OWENS, David Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Dalton, Lancashire OWENS, Edward Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Dalton, Lancashire
Piece: 4281 Folio: 109 Page: 78 Registration District: Ulverston Civil Parish: Dalton in Furness
Address: 37, Skelgate, Dalton In Furness County: Lancashire
Not very reliable with birth years, is he?
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25 Nov 2013 19:45 |
Elizabeth in 1891. Dalton Lancs
Elizabeth Sayle 47 Widow, Washerwoman William Cowin 24 Lizzie Sayle 8 John James Sayle 3
Posible 1871 Isle of Man
William Cowin 27 >> Elizabeth Cowin 27 Ann Jane Cowin 6 William Cowin 4 Elizabeth Cowin 2 Jemima Cowin 11 Months
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mandy
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25 Nov 2013 20:13 |
will print this off and check it out ty guys for helping so much xxxx
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mgnv
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26 Nov 2013 10:23 |
Using http://www.cumbriabmd.org.uk/ Cumbria Marriage indexes for the years: 1896 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference OWENS William H COWAN Urenica Barrow-in-Furness Register Office or Registrar Attended Cumbria Certificate Services C1/12/129
Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference 1896 OWENS Florence Edith Barrow Cumbria Certificate Services COWAN B/71/213 1897 OWENS William Henry Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services COWIN D/77/42 1899 OWENS Walter James Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services COWIN D/78/213 1901 OWENS Thomas Henry Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services COWIN D/80/427 1903 OWENS Lily Evelyn Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services COWIN D/82/454
1911 England Census Transcription Address:STAINTON IN FURNESS LANCASHIRE Parish:URSWICK County:Lancashire Country:ENGLAND Registration District:ULVERSTON Registration District Number:481 Registration Sub-District: Dalton SubDistrict Number:4 Enumeration District:2 Census Reference:RG14PN25627 RG78PN1470 RD481 SD4 ED2 SN30
W H OWENS 1868 43 DALTON IN FURNESS HEAD M Miner - out of work MARY OWENS 1880 31 BARROW IN FURNESS WIFE WILLIAM H OWENS 1898 13 DALTON IN FURNESS SON THOMAS H OWENS 1903 8 ASHTON IN FURNESS SON LILY OWENS 1904 7 DALTON IN FURNESS DAUGHTER FLORENCE OWENS 1895 16 HAWCOAT BARROW DAUGHTER JOHN W CASCOE 1910 1 ULVERSTON IN FURNESS STEPSON [WH says widowed; 5 live births; 4 still living; Mary says widowed; 1 live births; 1 still living. This was all x-ed out as not applying to current marr]
Deaths Jun 1908 (>99%) OWENS Walter 10 Ulverston 8e 496 Cumbria Death indexes for the years: 1908 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference OWENS Walter Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services D/41/10
Births Mar 1910 (>99%) PASCOE John Ulverston 8e 701
Marriages Sep 1910 (>99%) Casson Margaret Ulverston 8e 1782 Owens William H Ulverston 8e 1782 Pascoe Mary Ulverston 8e 1782 Robertson William Ulverston 8e 1782
Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference 1867 OWENS John Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services JONES D/20/421 1868 OWENS Joseph Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services JONES D/23/211 1869 OWENS Samuel Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services JONES D/26/185 1871 OWENS David Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services JONES D/30/224 1872 OWENS Edward Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services JONES D/33/477 1877 OWENS Margaret Ellen Bootle Cumbria Certificate Services JONES BOOT/12/405
1871 England Census Transcription Street:DALTON Parish:DALTON Town:DALTON County:Lancashire Country:ENGLAND Enumeration District:9 Registration District:ULVERSTON Record set:1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Archive Reference:RG10 Piece Number:4243 Folio:40 Page:72
WILLIAM OWENS 1830 41 HEAD CAROLINE OWENS 1836 35 WIFE JOHN OWENS 1858 13 SON ELIAS OWENS 1861 10 SON WILLIAM H OWENS 1864 7 SON JOSEPH OWENS 1868 3 SON
North Wales Marriage indexes for the years: 1856 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference JONES Caroline OWENS William Holywell, St James Flintshire (Mold) C12/2/E457
Flint Marriages Transcription First Name:CAROLINE Last Name:JONES Country:Wales Record set:Flint Marriages Bride First:Caroline County:Flintshire Bride Last Name:Jones Year:1856 Bride Father First Name:John Bride Father Last Name:Jones Groom Father First Name:Thomas Groom Father Last Name:Owens Groom First Name:William Groom Last Name:Owens Parish:Bagillt Place:BAGILLT Bride Age:Full Day Of Marriage:21 Groom Age:Full Month Of Marriage:Jun Year Of Marriage:1856 Page:229
I don't know where Bagillt comes from - the m.cert image clearly says the parish church in the parish of Holywell.
Flint Banns Transcription First Name:CAROLINE Last Name:JONES Country:Wales Record set:Flint Banns Bride First:Caroline County:Flintshire Bride Last Name:Jones Year:1856 Groom First Name:William Groom Last Name:Owens Banns Day:25 Banns Month:May Banns Year:1856 Place:BAGILLT Bride Parish:Holywell Groom Parish:Delton Page:154
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mandy
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26 Nov 2013 18:05 |
loads of info to digst here , think i am going to need help with this lot
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