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Elizabeth Mary Hollis 1880

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Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 12 Nov 2013 18:37

Hi Guys, I desperately need another pair of extra eyes.. I have a Elizabeth Mary Hollis born 1880 Belfast Ireland. Parents Samuel Hollis c1855 and Ann Mary Ryan.. Samuel Hollis born c1855 Newport Hants Isle of Wight is the son of James Hollis and Elizabeth Barry. Samuel is with his family in 1861 1871 on the Isle of Wight but no sign of him in 1881 - He has obviously gone to Belfast where his daughter was born in 1880, but I cannot trace him or Ann Mary Ryan. Elizabeth M Hollis is listed as "granddaughter" born Belfast aged 10 on the 1891 census with James and Elizabeth Isle of Wight?? what's happened to her parents?? Someone suggested he may have been a soldier of some sort. Can anyone solve this one. :-

patchem

patchem Report 12 Nov 2013 18:43

Have you found Elizabeth in 1901, and have you got a wedding certificate for her?

Thank-you

Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 12 Nov 2013 18:46

I have just sent off for her marriage certificate , she married Alfred Horatio Sheaf on the Isle of Wight in 1903... But it wont tell me what happened to her parents... I thought I might have found them on the 1881 census in Ireland??? :-S :-S

patchem

patchem Report 12 Nov 2013 18:51

It might say whether she believed he was still alive.....

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1901 Wales Census
Samuel Hollis Age in 1901: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Hollis
Gender: Male
Where born: Isle of Wight, Newport Civil Parish: Roath
Ecclesiastical parish: Roath St German County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Occupation: bank messenger and caretaker
Registration District: Cardiff Sub-registration District: East Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Household Schedule Number: 5 Piece: 4975 Folio: 68 Page Number: 1
Samuel Hollis 46
Annie Hollis 36 Scottish
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4975; Folio: 68; Page: 1.

Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 12 Nov 2013 18:54

Yes!! I did see the marriage details of Samuel, it listed Samuel as "batchelor" and on the 1911 census (same occupation) aged 57 married 16 years..No sign of Annie tho. I did wonder if this was the same Samuel and perhaps he never married Elizabeth Marys mother Ann Mary Ryan.??

patchem

patchem Report 12 Nov 2013 18:55

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1911 England Census
Samuel Hollis Age in 1911: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male Birth Place: Newport, Isle of Wight
Civil Parish: Bristol County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Land Lloyds Bank, 55 Corn St, Bristol
Marital Status: Married (16 years)
Occupation: Bank Messenger
Registration District: Bristol Registration District Number: 319
Sub-registration District: Bristol Central
ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Household Schedule Number: 7 Piece: 14879
Samuel Hollis 57
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 14879; Schedule Number: 7.

Choccy

Choccy Report 12 Nov 2013 19:24


this is him -

British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription
Print Close First name(s): Samuel
Last name: HOLLIS
Calculated year of birth: 1852
Parish of birth: Newport
Town of birth: Newport
County of birth: Hampshire
Age at attestation: 19 years
Attestation date: 6 October 1871
Attestation corps:
Attestation soldier number: 1537
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps:
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO97

married Mary Ann Ryan, St Pauls, Dublin on the 1st October 1879.

Daughter Elizabeth left at home - 2 South Street, Isle of Wight

Wife with Regiment. Discharged 28th January 1893.

Home - 9.10.71 - 20.11.85
India - 21.11.85 - 15.1.93
Home - 16.1.93 - 28.1.93

11 pages of records.

Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 12 Nov 2013 19:26

His marriage certificate to Annie Stewart in 1896 lists his occupation as "pensioner" I think, it could be "messenger" its hard to make out, at first I thought it said "prisoner" anyhow his father is listed as James (deceased) :-S

Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 12 Nov 2013 19:27

Wow Choccy, definitely him, what is the 11 pages of records for ??? Ohhh!!! please please send... :-D <3

Choccy

Choccy Report 12 Nov 2013 19:30


Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958

Name: Samuel Hollis

Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1879

Registration District: Dublin North

Volume: 2

Page Number: 477

FHL Film Number: 101253

Name Ann Mary Ryan

Choccy

Choccy Report 12 Nov 2013 19:43


Will take me a while to download the pages! but will forward to you :-)


Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 12 Nov 2013 19:45

Great Choccy much appreciated, do you need my email addess ?? I can forward it via your genes
:-)

Choccy

Choccy Report 12 Nov 2013 20:10


Sent by PM - let me know if there are any problems.


Choccy

Choccy Report 12 Nov 2013 20:17


???

Overseas registration event: Death

Name: HOLLIS, Mary Ryan
Consulate: Maranham
Country: Brazil
Year: 1881-1885
Volume: 7
Page: 75
Age at death:
Record source: GRO Consular Death Indices (1849 to 1965)

Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 13 Nov 2013 09:53

Choccy, sorry to be a pain, but I have been trying to find out what regiment Samuel Hollis was in, I have gone through every page twice as close up as I can get, but cant see it...Can you :-S :-S

Dea

Dea Report 13 Nov 2013 10:18

Page 2 ??

Colonel Seymour signed and underneath I think it says 'Commanding 2nd Btln Queens Bays' ??

Dea x

Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 13 Nov 2013 12:25

Thanks Dea! looked this up on the Internet. Seymour is listed. Looks like he rode horses.. :-(

Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 13 Nov 2013 12:47

Don't suppose that death tells us who Mary Ryan HOLLIS @ 20:17 tells us Marys parents does it?? :-S

safc

safc Report 13 Nov 2013 14:09

Area - DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. PAUL

Marriage of SAMUEL HOLLIS of ROYAL BARRACKS and ANN MARY RYAN of ROYAL BARRACKS on 1 October 1879

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Name SAMUEL HOLLIS ANN MARY RYAN
Address ROYAL BARRACKS ROYAL BARRACKS
Occupation L C SERGEANT 2D DRAGOON GUARDS N/R
Father JAMES HOLLIS JAMES RYAN
Mother N/R N/R
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Husband Age FULL
Husband Marital Status B
Wife Age FULL
Wife Marital Status S
Husband's Father's Occupation MASON
Wife's Father's Occupation MASON
Witness 1 THOMAS UPTON (WITNESS FOR HUSBAND)
Witness 3 MARY JANE TURNY (WITNESS FOR WIFE)
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Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier Image Filename
N/R 120 239 DU-CI-MA-46170 d-273-4-7-120

View the church register page containing this record.

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/reels/d-273-4-7-120.pdf

Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 13 Nov 2013 16:46

Great stuff Safc, I would never have found that in a million years.... :-D