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I have the family in 1861 as :-

Thomas Nailer possibly 1810
Harriet Nailer 1811
Mary Anne Nailer 1850
Charlotte Nailer 1853

May be in Crowmarsh

Looking at the age of the parents I wonder if there were some earlier children? Can anybody see the family in 1851 please?

Many thanks,
Frances

Not finding them on the 1861, so working a bit blind, but I'm wondering about this family - right area. 1851 census transcription details for: Hamlet Called The Slade, Bucklebury

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1691
Folio: 196
Page: 9
Reg. District: Bradfield
Sub District:
Parish: Bucklebury
Enum. District: 9B
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Hamlet Called The Slade, Bucklebury
County: Berkshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
NAILOR, Harriett Wife Married F 40 1811 Bucklebury, Berkshire
NAILOR, Mary Ann Daughter F 1 1850 Bucklebury, Berkshire
NAILOR, Tom Son M 15 1836 Labourer Bucklebury, Berkshire
NAILOR, Thomas Head Married M 41 1810 Labourer Bucklebury, Berkshire
NAILOR, Amos Son M 7 1844 Scholar Bucklebury, Berkshire

Which would give you this family 1841 - the original is awful, but think it says Ag Lab

1841 census transcription details for: Slade, Bucklebury

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 25
Book/Folio: 5/13
Page: 20
Reg. District: Bradfield
Sub District: Bucklebury
Parish: Bucklebury
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Slade, Bucklebury
County: Berkshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
NAILOR, Thomas M 30 1811 Berkshire
NAILOR, Harriot F 25 1816 Berkshire
NAILOR, Emma F 10 1831 Berkshire
NAILOR, Tom M 4 1837 Berkshire

Found the 1861 you quote, so looking at the birth places I would think the 1851 is correct

1861 census transcription details for: Upper Common, Bucklebury

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 742
Folio: 16
Page: 26
Reg. District: Bradfield
Sub District: 1 Bucklebury
Parish: Bucklebury
Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Upper Common, Bucklebury
County: Berkshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
NAILER, Thomas Head Married M 51 1810 Agricultural Labourer Bucklebury, Berkshire
NAILER, Harriet Wife Married F 50 1811 Agricultural Labourer Bucklebury, Berkshire
NAILER, Mary Ann Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar Bucklebury, Berkshire
NAILER, Charlott Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar Bucklebury, Berkshire

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father: Thomas Nailer
mother: Harriot Knott
Name Tom Nailer
Gender Male
Christening Date 31 Jul 1836
Christening Place PRIMITIVE METHODIST,READING,BERKSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date 12 Jul 1836
Birthplace
Death Date
Name Note
Race
Father's Name Thomas Nailer
Father's Birthplace
Father's Age
Mother's Name Harriot Knott
Mother's Birthplace
Mother's Age
Indexing Project (Batch) Number C04569-1
System Origin England-ODM
GS Film number 583986
Reference ID

Thank you Stuart and Maddie, of course the 1841 dates make the family seem odd and Harriot a very young mother and Lucy's details in 1851 are a bit strange. Needs some more head scratching....

sorry removed my posting as mary ann seems to have been registered in Bradfield Berks, close to Buckleberry
maddie

1841 census shows rounded down ages for the over 15's, so Harriett could have been 25-29 years of age. Make her 29 and then 40 and 50 in 1851 and 1861 make sense.

Maddie appears to have removed her contribution. Looking at census and family search, there are several Nailer/Nailor's in the area - probably brothers/cousins who have named their children similarly

Thank you Stuart, there being more than one family would help explain the anomalies

ivil registration event: Birth
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Name: NAILOR, Mary Ann

Registration district: [?] Bradfield

County: Berkshire

Year of registration: 1850

Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar

Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3

Volume no:[?]VI

Page no:[?]169

Maddie I have looked for May Ann in Oxfordshire and Berkshire in FreeBMD and both counties give the same!

Births Dec 1849
NAILER Mary Ann Wallingford
6 263

and in the 1881 when she is married she gives Crowmarsh as her place of birth.

The plot thickens.....

From the Berkshire Christenings Database

Christenings at St Mary The Virgin Bucklebury, children of Thomas (labourer) & Harriet Nailor

10 March 1844 Amos
28 July 1850 Mary Ann
17 Oct 1852 Charlotte born 18 Feb
5 Nov 1855 Jane privately born 30 Oct

Burials at Bucklebury

8 Nov 1855 Jane 5 days
25 Feb 1879 Thomas age 71

This may or may not be your Thomas the father. I can't find any marriages for your Nailors on the Berkshire marriage database so will look in Wallingford for you. There may be more christenings either in Bucklebury or elsewhere which weren't apparent when looking on the disc so shall go back and have another look for you

The Turner/Nailer families are still being a headache.....

I have the 1881 census from Family Search

1881 Census
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Charles Turner
M 35 Witney, Oxfordshire, England
Wife Mary A Turner
F 30 Crownarsh, Oxfordshire, England
Son Arthur Turner M 11 Crownarsh, Oxfordshire, England
Daughter Ada Turner
F 9 Crownarsh, Oxfordshire, England
Daughter Annie Turner
F 7 Crownarsh, Oxfordshire, England
Daughter Alice C Turner
F 6 Crownarsh, Oxfordshire, England
Son John Turner
M 4 Crownarsh, Oxfordshire, England
Daughter Katey Turner
F 2 Wallingford, Oxfordshire, England
Address: Benson Aka, Bensington (Oxon),


But I cannot see any sign of them in 1891. Mary Ann is saying she is from Crowmarsh rather than Bucklebury and I am hoping to determine which is correct.

At least I still have the 1869 marriage to fall back on - just need the certificate.

Marriages Jun 1869
TURNER Charles Wallingford
2c 491

Nailer Maryanne Wallingford
2c 491

Can anybody see the family 'hiding somehow' in 1891 please?

Many thanks
Frances

Thanks Beejay. I have been so busy typing I did not realise you had posted.

That's OK Frances, in the meantime I've found this marriage

St Mary Magdalene Crowmarsh

17 May 1869

Charles Turner f/a labourer otp to Mary Ann Nailer minor otp
Witnesses Sarah Blissett & Henry Wadley
Fathers John Turner - labourer & Thomas Nailer - beer & shopkeeper

Thanks Beejay, that Thomas Nailer is who Charles and Mary Ann, with the children Arthur and Charles, are living with in the 1871 and Thomas says he comes from Bucklebury!
It seems like all yesterday's contributions on Nailers are the correct family.
I think I need a strong coffee now to celebrate the outcome.
The 1851 census for

Births Dec 1849
NAILER Mary Ann Wallingford
6 263

being somebody entirely different would seal it good and proper?

is this the one you have asked for in 1891 ??
TURNER, Mary A Head Widow F 39 1852 Charwoman
Crowmarsh-Gifford, Oxfordshire VIEW
TURNER, Arthur Son Single M 20 1871 Agricultural Labourer
Crowmarsh-Gifford, Oxfordshire VIEW
TURNER, Annie Daughter Single F 18 1873 Domestic Servant General
Crowmarsh-Gifford, Oxfordshire VIEW
TURNER, John T Son Single M 13 1878 Carter Boy To Agriculturist
Crowmarsh-Gifford, Oxfordshire VIEW
TURNER, Mary K Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar
Wallingford, Berkshire VIEW
TURNER, Charles H Son M 10 1881 Scholar
Benson, Oxfordshire VIEW
TURNER, Ernest F Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Crowmarsh-Gifford, Oxfordshire VIEW
TURNER, Elizabeth L Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
Crowmarsh-Gifford, Oxfordshire VIEW

Piece: 986

Folio: 138

Page: 8

Registration District: Wallingford

Civil Parish: Crowmarsh Gifford

Municipal Borough: Wallingford

Address: Crowmarsh Street, Crowmarsh Gifford, Crowmarsh-Gifford, Wallingford

County: Berkshire
refine search back to 1891 census search res

here she is in 1851

1851 England Census about Mary Ann Lailer
Name: Mary Ann Lailer
[Mary Ann Nailer]
[Mary Ann Nailer]
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Lailer
Mother's Name: Hannah Lailer
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Cromarsh, Oxfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Crowmarsh Gifford
Ecclesiastical parish: Oxford
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Wallingford
Sub-registration District: Cholsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 28
Piece: 1690
Folio: 435
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Lailer 51
Hannah Lailer 46
Elizabeth Lailer 26
Lucy Lailer 24
Edwin Lailer 7
Mary Ann Lailer 1
Robert Speare 31

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Name: Thomas Nayler
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Hannah Lailey
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 1824
Event Place: Bucklebury, Berkshire, England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M15525-2
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1279453
Reference ID: 2:2C82HBK

Thanks Maddie, that is the one I was after and although both fathers are Thomas at least the mothers are marginally different - Hannah versus Harriot !!!!