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1871 census Devon,England

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Joan

Joan Report 12 Sep 2013 22:33

I'm hoping for a couple of look-ups please: William Henry Kelly ,born Calstock, Cornwall around 1864 and Johana Menhennet,born about 1867 in Plymouth . In 1881 Johana is attending a school for orphans so I'm hoping the 1871 census will have her with her parents. Many thanks for any information on either of them.
Joan

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Sep 2013 22:36

will take a look

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Sep 2013 22:39

Possible 1871:


1871 England Census
Name: Johanna Menhennett
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Menhennett
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: [Charles]
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration District: Plymouth
Sub-registration District: Charles

ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household Schedule Number: 64
Piece: 2115 Folio: 60 Page Number: 10

Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Menhennett 41 - charwoman (widow)
William Menhennett 14 - errand boy
Martha Menhennett 11
Richard Menhennett 7
Johanna Menhennett 3

All born Bodmin, apart from Johanna born Plymouth

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Sep 2013 22:43

not picking up Johana on any census can you post the 1881 that you found her on

Joan

Joan Report 12 Sep 2013 22:45

That would be her-it's an unusual name..Many thanks for your time.I'm wondering-does it say whether Elizabeth is a widow?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Sep 2013 22:46

FMP isnt finding her at all for some reason

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Sep 2013 22:46

This could be the baptism of Johanna's sister Martha (from Cornwall OPC)

Day Month 01-Jun Year 1859
Parish Or Reg District vBodmin
Forename Martha Bray
Surname MENHENNETT
Sex dau
Father Forename John
Mother Forename Elizabeth
Residence Lower Bore St
Father Rank Profession Tailor
Notes b.13-May
Transcriber Notes
Transcriber Kay Halley

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Sep 2013 22:48

This could be her brother William

Day Month 10-Mar Year 1858
Parish Or Reg District = Bodmin
Forename William Thomas
Surname MENHENNET
Sex son
Father Forename John
Mother Forename Elizabeth
Residence Lower Bore St
Father Rank Profession Tailor
Notes b.8-Feb
Transcriber Notes
Transcriber Kay Halley

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Sep 2013 22:48

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1871 census transcription details for: Road, Calstock
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 2146
Folio: 8
Page: 11
Reg. District: Tavistock
Sub District: Tavistock
Parish: Calstock
Enum. District: 19
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Road, Calstock
County: Devonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
KELLY, Francis Head M 35 1836 Devon
KELLY, Ann Wife F 40 1831 Devon
KELLY, Samuel F Son M 14 1857 Devon
KELLY, Thomas F Son M 12 1859 Devon
KELLY, Eva Daughter F 10 1861 Devon
>>KELLY, William H Son M 7 1864 Devon
KELLY, Matilda Daughter F 5 1866 Cornwall, Calstock
KELLY, John A Son M 3 1868 Cornwall
KELLY, Frederick R Son M 0 1871 Cornwall


Same family.



1881 census transcription details for: East Stanley Cot, Tanfield
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 4941
Folio: 61
Page: 57
Reg. District: Lanchester
Sub District: Tanfield
Parish: Tanfield
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: East Stanley Cot, Tanfield
County: Durham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
KELLY, Francis Head Married M 47 1834 Coal Miner
St Giles, Devon
KELLY, Elizabeth A Wife Married F 52 1829
Shebbor, Devon
KELLY, Thomas J Son Single M 22 1859 Coal Miner
Friskstock, Devon
KELLY, Eva Daughter Single F 20 1861 Domestic Serv
Friskstock, Devon
KELLY, William Hy Son Single M 17 1864 Coal Miner
Friskstock, Devon
KELLY, Frederick Rd Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
Calstock, Cornwall
KELLY, Bessie Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Tanfield, Durham
KELLY, Matilda Daughter Single F 16 1865 Dressmaker
Calstock, Cornwall
MONTGOMERY, Alfred Boarder Lodger Single M 21 1860 Coal Miner
Scotswood, Northumberland

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Sep 2013 22:50

Given that Martha had middle name Bray then this is highly likely the marriage of Johanna's parents:

Day Month 01-Jan Year 1855
Parish Or Reg District Bodmin

Groom Fn John
Groom Sn MENHENNETT
Groom Age 22
Groom Residence Downing St.
Groom Condition bachelor
Groom Rank Profession Tailor
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) S
Groom Father Name Thomas
Groom Father Rank Profession Shoemaker

Bride Fn Elizabeth Rosalie
Bride Sn BRAY
Bride Age 23
Bride Residence Lower Bore St.
Bride Condition spinster
Bride Rank Profession
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) S
Bride Father Name William
Bride Father Rank Profession Butcher

Banns / Licence (B/L) B
Witness Fn1 William
Witness Sn1 Bray
Witness Fn2 William
Witness Sn2 Gover

Other Information
Transcriber Notes
Transcriber Kay Halley

Joan

Joan Report 12 Sep 2013 22:52

that's great,MarieCeleste.I found Johanna in an orphan Asylum in Plymouth in 1881 but that's all I wrote down,i'm afraid.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Sep 2013 22:55

bad transcription

1881 England Census about Johanna Menheniot
Name: Johanna Menheniot
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Plymouth St Andrew
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: "Orphan Asylum" Lockyer St
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration District: Plymouth
Sub-registration District: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2199
Folio: 129
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Bidgood 52
Caroline Timon 39
Amelia B. Kibbey 28
Rosetta Reid 15
Lillie Hoar 15
Elizabeth Green 15
Bessie Shea 15
Evelyn Brown 15
Catherine Bowden 15
Bessie Stokes 14
Lebitia Brown 14
Ellen Downey 15
Elizabeth Jewell 14
Elizabeth Deacon 14
Alice Ratcliffe 14
Emma George 14
Alice Main 13
Thirza Thomas 13
Emily Radmore 13
Louisa Sundercock 13
Elizabeth Styles 13
Edith Boyd 13
Emily Manning 13
Johanna Menheniot 13 >>>>>>>>

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2199; Folio: 129; Page: 28; GSU roll: 1341529.


no wonder It was difficult to find :-)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Sep 2013 22:55

Joan, if you're doing any further research for Cornwall then make a note of this site:
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/home/

Joan

Joan Report 12 Sep 2013 23:01

Thank you so much,MarieCeleste.The marriage registration is a lovely surprise-lots of new info.

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Sep 2013 23:01

Their marriage.

Parish Record Collection - Marriage Record
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Groom's Forenames: William Henry
Groom's Surname: Kelly
Groom's Age: 28
Groom's parish:
Event Year: 1891
Event Month: Mar
Event Day: 22
Bride's Forenames: Johannah
Bride's Surname: Menhennett
Bride's Age: 23
Bride's Parish:
Place: Plymouth
Parish: Holy Trinity
County: Devon
Page: 201
Groom's Father's Forenames: Richard
Groom's Father's Surname: Kelley
Bride's Father's Forenames: William Thomas
Bride's Father's Surname: Menhennett
Event Type: Marriage
Record source: Devon Marriages - Transcripts
Data provider: Devon Family History Society

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 12 Sep 2013 23:04

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about William Henry Kelly
Name: William Henry Kelly
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1864
Registration District: Liskeard
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 5c
Page: 84

s about William Henry Kelly
Name: William Henry Kelly
Age in 1911: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Calstock, Cornwall
Civil Parish: Devonport
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Duke Street, Devonport
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Pipe Layer Devonport Corporation Walter Works
Registration District: Devonport
Registration District Number: 278
Sub-registration District: St Aubyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household Schedule Number: 197
Piece: 13020
Household Members:
Name Age
William Henry Kelly 49
Johanah Kelly 43
Elsie Kelly 19
William Henry Kelly 17
Ketty Rosalia Kelly 15
Winnifred Kelly 14
Martha Elizabeth Kelly 10
George Joseph Kelly 7
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Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 13020; Schedule Number: 197.
Source Information:
Ancestry.com. 1911 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1911. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA), 1911.
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Joan

Joan Report 12 Sep 2013 23:08

Your last post lists Wm Henry's father as Richard Kelly so I think the family with Francis Kelly is probably not the one.I did find a William Henry Kelly age 17 in 1881 living with aunt and uncle Joseph and Dina Cater and William's brother George,in Plymouth.

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Sep 2013 23:13


1901 census transcription details for: 4, Municipal House, James Street, Devonport
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 2107
Folio: 61
Page: 14
Reg. District: Stoke-Damerel
Sub District: St Aubyn
Parish: Devonport
Enum. District: 10
Ecclesiastical District: St John Baptist
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 4, Municipal House, James Street, Devonport
County: Devonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
KELLEY, William H Head Married M 39 1862 Labourer General
Cornwall
KELLEY, Johannah Wife Married F 33 1868
Plymouth, Devonshire
KELLEY, Elsie M Daughter F 10 1891
Devonport, Devonshire
KELLEY, William H Son M 7 1894
Devonport, Devonshire
KELLEY, Hetty K Daughter F 5 1896
Devonport, Devonshire
KELLEY, Winnifred Daughter F 4 1897
Devonport, Devonshire
KELLEY, Martha E Daughter F 0 (1 MOS) 1901
Devonport, Devonshire

Joan

Joan Report 12 Sep 2013 23:18

Thanks to all of you who have been helping me.i'm most grateful.
joan

Joan

Joan Report 12 Sep 2013 23:21

Just one more! Can any of you find the father Richard Kelly in 1881 and earlier,please?