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30 Jun 2013 08:25 |
1. Noah Davis/Davies was supposed to have been born 28 Mar 1813 - Rowley, Staffordshire, England. Parents William & Mary
Supposed to have married 27 Jul 1835 to Eliza Woodall - St Martin's Tipton
Died 11 Aug 1884 Union Workhouse Sedgley Staffordshire. Name recorded as Davies. (I have the cert)
Can't find him 1841 or 1851 census
2. Supposed son - James (Woodall) Davies/Davis said to have been born 28 Jul 1833 - Kate's Hill, Worcestershire, England.
Can't find the record - not sure if he was born out of wedlock as Woodall.
The information is from others but I can't find any of the records/urls to prove any of it.
Can anybody help - would appreciate it :-D :-D
Edit: Sorry edited death sorry my typo.
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patchem
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30 Jun 2013 08:31 |
If the information is from others, why not contact them to find their sources?
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PricklyHolly
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30 Jun 2013 08:33 |
For ref...........here is the 1861
1861 England Census about Noah Davies Name: Noah Davies Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Davies Gender: Male Where born: Rowley, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Dudley Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Dudley County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: Dudley Sub-registration District: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 34 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 85 Piece: 2060 Folio: 13 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Noah Davies 48 Eliza Davies 46 Jos Davies 18 Silveas Davies 16 Charlotte Davies 10 Rosehand Davies 6 Mary Ann Davies 16 Months
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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30 Jun 2013 08:34 |
But isn't this him?
1861 census transcription details for: High Street, Dudley
Print Close National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 2060 Folio: 13 Page: 21 Reg. District: Dudley Sub District: 4 Dudley Parish: Dudley Enum. District: 34 Ecclesiastical District: St Johns City/Municipal Borough: Address: High Street, Dudley County: Staffordshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born DAVIES, Noah Head Married M 48 1813 Puddler Sedgley, Staffordshire DAVIES, Eliza Wife Married F 46 1815 Dudley, Worcestershire DAVIES, Job Son Unmarried M 18 1843 Puddler Dudley, Worcestershire DAVIES, Sileas Daughter F 14 1847 Dudley, Worcestershire DAVIES, Charlotte Daughter F 10 1851 Dudley, Worcestershire DAVIES, Roseanna Daughter F 6 1855 Dudley, Worcestershire DAVIES, Mary Ann Daughter F 1 (16M) 1860 Dudley, Worcestershire
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MarieCeleste
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30 Jun 2013 08:39 |
According to this he wasn't born 28 Mar 1813, that was his baptism:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N1JF-2DW
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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30 Jun 2013 08:43 |
Will give mums name
Name: Job Davies Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1843 Registration District: Dudley Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 18 Page: 348
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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30 Jun 2013 08:45 |
Looks like he didn't die till 1884
Name: Noah Davies Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1884 Age at Death: 71 Registration District: Dudley Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6c Page: 42
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30 Jun 2013 08:45 |
I would have thought that based on the census above that this death was more likely:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Noah Davies Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1884 Age at Death: 71 Registration District: Dudley Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6c Page: 42
rather than
Name: Noah Davis Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1854 Registration District: Wolverhampton Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 299
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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30 Jun 2013 08:48 |
He is with son Joseph in 1881 Name: Noah Davies Age: 70 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relation: Father Gender: Male Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England Civil Parish: Tipton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address: 2 CT 3 Chapel St Condition as to marriage: Widow Education:
Employment status:
View Image Occupation: Puddler Retired Registration District: Dudley Sub-registration District: Tipton ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2863 Folio: 123 Page Number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Davies 36 Mary Davies 34 Joseph Davies 11 Noah Davies 6 Eliza Davies 5 Charlotte Davies 3 Moses Davies Noah Davies 70 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2863; Folio: 123; Page: 25; GSU roll: 1341686.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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30 Jun 2013 08:52 |
1851 census Name: Noah Pains [User-submitted-comment] Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Pains Gender: M (Male) Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England Civil Parish: Dudley Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Dudley County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:St Johns Road
Occupation:PUDDLER
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View Image Registration District: Dudley Sub-registration District: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 1dd Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 54 Piece: 2033 Folio: 222 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Noah Pains 38 Eliza Pains 36 Jas Pains 18 Thos Pains 15 Jane Pains 13 Maria Pains 11 Josh Pains 7 Olive Pains 5 Caroline Pains 3
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2033; Folio: 222; Page: 16; GSU roll: 87440.
Submitted correction
Surname was poss.Payne Davies (various spellings )The family seemed to swop from Davies to Paine /Payne . Submitted by thomwood1 on 12/01/2012
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Jun 2013 08:56 |
Baptism County Staffordshire Place Dudley Staffs Church St Thomas RegisterNumber 154 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 28 Jul 1833 Forename James Sex M FatherForename MotherForename Eliza FatherSurname MotherSurname WOODALL Abode Freebodies FatherOccupation Notes 'Illegitimate'
Baptism County Staffordshire Place Dudley Staffs Church St Thomas RegisterNumber 128 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 28 Mar 1813 Forename Noah Sex M FatherForename William MotherForename Mary FatherSurname DAVIS MotherSurname Abode Rowley FatherOccupation Nailor
Chris :)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
(from above useful link)
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CupCakes
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30 Jun 2013 09:00 |
Sorry I made a typo in Noah's death - have edited the opening post. 1861 census is corrected it is the info before then that is missing. I have obviously asked others but nobody seems to be able to explain where the info came from that is why I'm trying to prove it.
Can't get my head round the new IGI site - struggling to find any info for myself
Thanks everybody
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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30 Jun 2013 09:04 |
.? 1841 England Census about Noah Davis Name: Noah Davis Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Male Civil Parish: West Bromwich Hundred: South Offlow County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
View Image Registration District: West Bromwich Sub-registration District: West Bromwich Southwest Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 978 Book: 9 Folio: 8 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Noah Davis 25 Eliza Davis 20 James Davis 8 Thomas Davis 6 Jane Davis 4 Maria Davis 2 Joseph Davis 1 Mo Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 978; Book: 9; Civil Parish: West Bromwich; County: Staffordshire; Enumeration District: 19; Folio: 8; Page: 8; Line: 16; GSU roll: 474614.
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Jun 2013 09:05 |
Burial County Staffordshire Place Bilston Church Wesleyan Methodist Chapel (Swan Bank) RegisterNumber 28314 BurialDate 15 May 1854 Forename Noah Relationship Rel1MaleForename Rel1FemaleForename Rel1Surname Surname DAVIS Age 14 Abode Bilston
(above 1854)
Chris :)
(oh, post now changed to 1884)
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30 Jun 2013 09:17 |
Gosh this is moving so fast - just shows fresh eyes are invaluable.
Shirley - where did you find the 1841 census & 1851 (Pain). Is there an url link
Chris Ho - thanks for the baptism indo - never throught of FreeReg
MarieCeleste - I have corrected the info so the records are bapts
Thanks everybody
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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30 Jun 2013 09:24 |
1871 England Census about Noah Davis Name: Noah Davis Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Davis Gender: Male Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England Civil Parish: Tipton Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration District: Dudley Sub-registration District: Tipton ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household Schedule Number: 28 Piece: 2998 Folio: 6 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Noah Davis 58 PUDDLER Eliza Davis 55 Mary A Davis 11
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30 Jun 2013 09:37 |
Shirley - thanks found them - wonder where the Paine name came from and why.
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30 Jun 2013 09:56 |
This is amazing this morning - thanks so much
If anybody has the time can they look up the baptism/birth of the children Thomas, Jane & Joseph.
Not sure if Thomas is Noah's son either.
Want to be sure of my facts before I pass the info on.
Need the marriage of Noah & Eliza Woodall confirmed as well.
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MarieCeleste
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30 Jun 2013 10:03 |
It appears Noah married as Paine:
Eliza Woodhall, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 "
Name: Noah Paine Spouse's Name: Eliza Woodhall Event Date: 27 Jul 1835 Event Place: St. Martin, Tipton, Stafford, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M16744-5 System Origin: England-VR GS Film number: 1526189 Reference ID: 2:3S323DB Sources
Citing this Record https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NXYZ-S2P
(FamilySearch is really easy to use now)
Perhaps Noah was illegitimate and switched between father and mother's surnames?
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30 Jun 2013 11:10 |
MarieCeleste thank you - didn't think of that.
I'm carefully copying everything with all the references
To sort out the births of all their kids is going to e a nightmare
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