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1911 census

Person: DAVIES, Joseph
Address: 10 Aston St Tipton

DAVIES, Joseph Head Married43 years M 65 1846 Iron Worker Puddling Furnace Dudley VIEW
DAVIES, Mary Wife Married F 63 1848 Tipton VIEW
DAVIES, Job Son Single M 34 1877 Labourer Bricklayers Tipton VIEW
HOWES, Elijah Boarder Single M 30 1881 Iron Worker At Rolls In Forge Tipton VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 17388
Reference: RG14PN17388 RG78PN1065 RD372 SD2 ED16 SN278
Registration District: Dudley
Sub District: Tipton
Enumeration District: 16
Parish: Tipton
Address: 10 Aston St Tipton
County: Staffordshire
(4 children born, 3 living 1 had died)

This is his son Noah

1911 England Census about Bertha Davis
Name: Bertha Davis
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Netherton, Worcestershire
Civil Parish: Tipton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 26 Dudley Port, Tipton, Staffs
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Housekeeper
Registration District: Dudley
Registration District Number: 372
Sub-registration District: Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household Schedule Number: 124
Piece: 17375
Household Members:
Name Age
Noah Davis 69
Bertha Davis 34
John Davis 28
Frederick Davis 21

Genes have said on a number of occasions that they're quite happy for us to name the sites we use as sources. The only issue they have is if we make unfavourable comparisons between this site and others.

Ancestry is the site referred to above.............

Shirley - thanks for taking so much trouble - have now found both the 1841 & 1851 census on A.........(don't want to mention the name in full)

Just up to the children now the siblings of James. So many - wonder how they managed so many children in those days

Sue

The 1851 its on Ancestry . I searched with no surname but poss birth years etc and came upon that one

Edit. My reply is a bit late as have been out taking OH to church,and then picking him up again

MarieCeleste thank you - didn't think of that.

I'm carefully copying everything with all the references

To sort out the births of all their kids is going to e a nightmare

It appears Noah married as Paine:

Eliza Woodhall, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 "

Name: Noah Paine
Spouse's Name: Eliza Woodhall
Event Date: 27 Jul 1835
Event Place: St. Martin, Tipton, Stafford, England

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M16744-5
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1526189
Reference ID: 2:3S323DB
Sources

Citing this Record
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NXYZ-S2P

(FamilySearch is really easy to use now)

Perhaps Noah was illegitimate and switched between father and mother's surnames?

This is amazing this morning - thanks so much

If anybody has the time can they look up the baptism/birth of the children
Thomas, Jane & Joseph.

Not sure if Thomas is Noah's son either.

Want to be sure of my facts before I pass the info on.

Need the marriage of Noah & Eliza Woodall confirmed as well.

Shirley - thanks found them - wonder where the Paine name came from and why.

1871 England Census about Noah Davis
Name: Noah Davis
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Davis
Gender: Male
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Tipton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration District: Dudley
Sub-registration District: Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household Schedule Number: 28
Piece: 2998
Folio: 6
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Noah Davis 58 PUDDLER
Eliza Davis 55
Mary A Davis 11

Gosh this is moving so fast - just shows fresh eyes are invaluable.

Shirley - where did you find the 1841 census & 1851 (Pain).
Is there an url link

Chris Ho - thanks for the baptism indo - never throught of FreeReg

MarieCeleste - I have corrected the info so the records are bapts

Thanks everybody

Burial
County Staffordshire
Place Bilston
Church Wesleyan Methodist Chapel (Swan Bank)
RegisterNumber 28314
BurialDate 15 May 1854
Forename Noah
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname DAVIS
Age 14
Abode Bilston

(above 1854)

Chris :)

(oh, post now changed to 1884)

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1841 England Census about Noah Davis
Name: Noah Davis
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Hundred: South Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration District: West Bromwich
Sub-registration District: West Bromwich Southwest
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 978
Book: 9
Folio: 8
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Noah Davis 25
Eliza Davis 20
James Davis 8
Thomas Davis 6
Jane Davis 4
Maria Davis 2
Joseph Davis 1 Mo
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 978; Book: 9; Civil Parish: West Bromwich; County: Staffordshire; Enumeration District: 19; Folio: 8; Page: 8; Line: 16; GSU roll: 474614.

Sorry I made a typo in Noah's death - have edited the opening post.
1861 census is corrected it is the info before then that is missing.
I have obviously asked others but nobody seems to be able to explain where the info came from that is why I'm trying to prove it.

Can't get my head round the new IGI site - struggling to find any info for myself

Thanks everybody

Baptism
County Staffordshire
Place Dudley Staffs
Church St Thomas
RegisterNumber 154
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 28 Jul 1833
Forename James
Sex M
FatherForename
MotherForename Eliza
FatherSurname
MotherSurname WOODALL
Abode Freebodies
FatherOccupation
Notes 'Illegitimate'


Baptism
County Staffordshire
Place Dudley Staffs
Church St Thomas
RegisterNumber 128
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 28 Mar 1813
Forename Noah
Sex M
FatherForename William
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname DAVIS
MotherSurname
Abode Rowley
FatherOccupation Nailor

Chris :)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

(from above useful link)

1851 census
Name: Noah Pains
[User-submitted-comment]
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Pains
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Dudley
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Dudley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:St Johns Road

Occupation:PUDDLER

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Dudley
Sub-registration District: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1dd
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 54
Piece: 2033
Folio: 222
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Noah Pains 38
Eliza Pains 36
Jas Pains 18
Thos Pains 15
Jane Pains 13
Maria Pains 11
Josh Pains 7
Olive Pains 5
Caroline Pains 3

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2033; Folio: 222; Page: 16; GSU roll: 87440.


Submitted correction

Surname was poss.Payne Davies (various spellings )The family seemed to swop from Davies to Paine /Payne .
Submitted by thomwood1 on 12/01/2012

He is with son Joseph in 1881
Name: Noah Davies
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Father
Gender: Male
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Tipton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 2 CT 3 Chapel St
Condition as to marriage: Widow
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Puddler Retired
Registration District: Dudley
Sub-registration District: Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2863
Folio: 123
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Davies 36
Mary Davies 34
Joseph Davies 11
Noah Davies 6
Eliza Davies 5
Charlotte Davies 3
Moses Davies
Noah Davies 70

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2863; Folio: 123; Page: 25; GSU roll: 1341686.

I would have thought that based on the census above that this death was more likely:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Noah Davies
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1884
Age at Death: 71
Registration District: Dudley
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6c
Page: 42


rather than


Name: Noah Davis
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1854
Registration District: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 299

Looks like he didn't die till 1884

Name: Noah Davies
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1884
Age at Death: 71
Registration District: Dudley
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6c
Page: 42