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I have a lady, her husband and daughter who I can't find any more information on past 1881 UK census. Her name is Eliza Jane Alma Norman, born 1855 Bath Somerset, husband William Hall, born 1854 Peckham Surrey and daughter Eliza A Hall, born 1877 Brotton Yorkshire. Eliza and William Hall were married 1874 in Yorkshire.
Eliza's two half sisters, mother and step father all immigrated to America in 1892-3. Also I have not found Eliza on the 1871 census.
Any help most welcome Linda

Are you descended from them, if so how?

where are they in 1881?
Which Eliza emigrated? Mother or daughter?

1881?



Name:Eliza J.A. Hall

Age:25

Estimated Birth Year:
1856

Relation:Wife

Spouse's Name:William Hall

Gender:Female

Where born:Bath, Somerset, England

Civil Parish:Brotton

County/Island:yorkshire

Country:England

Street Address:22 Grange St

Condition as to marriage:Married

Registration District:
Guisborough

Sub-registration District:Lofthouse

ED, institution, or vessel:
7
Piece:4839
Folio:20
Page Number:34


William Hall 26
Eliza J.A. Hall 25
Eliza A. Hall 4
Thomas Foard 52

Her mother and husband in 1900 in Pennsylvania

Name: Jonathan Sparks
Age: 53
Birth Date: Sep 1846
Birthplace: England
Home in 1900: Lower Yoder, Cambria, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: Unkn
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Jane Sparks
Marriage Year: 1879
Years Married: 21
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Occupation:
Household Members:
Name Age
Jonathan Sparks
53
Jane Sparks
69

Just putting the 1861 census, as Eliza could be hiding under mother's new surname:
1861 England Census
Eliza Jane Alma Norman Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Jane Archard
Gender: Female Where born: Bath, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Calne Ecclesiastical parish: Calne Town: Calne County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England
Registration District: Calne Sub-registration District: Calne
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household Schedule Number: 37 Piece: 1286 Folio: 67 Page Number: 9
Jane Archard 30 Bacon Carer's Lab's Wife Coleshill Wiltshire
Eliza Jane Alma Norman 6
Henry George Archard 9 Months
Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 1286; Folio: 67; Page: 9; GSU roll: 542789.

Added:
Alternative information added to Ancestry that the mother was born in Coleshill Berkshire.

Astra That is her mother and step father in America on the 1900 Census. They went to America, Jonathan Sparks 1892 on the SS Teutonic and Jane later that year on the SS Ohio. Linda

Just for ref:
1871 England Census
Jane Archard Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Archard
Gender: Female Where born: Cholhill, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Rosedale East Side County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England Registration District: Pickering Sub-registration District: Lastingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household Schedule Number: 238 Piece: 4840 Folio: 63 Page Number: 58
George Archard 35 I Stone Labourer Calne Wiltshire
Jane Archard 39
George Archard 10
Ellen Archard 7 Plaistow Essex
Elizabeth A Sanders 15 servant
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4840; Folio: 63; Page: 58; GSU roll: 847369.

Penny
All of the Halls are uncounted for after 1881 UK census. it was her mother Jane Norman Archard Sparks, sister Sarah Jane Archard, sister Ellen Emily Archard Harland Jane Norman Archard Sparks is my GGGrandmother, her son Henry George Archard is my G Grandfather. George emigrated to Australia 1878. Jane Noman Archard Sparks was married three times. i don't know if Eliza Jane Alma Norman Hall emigrated or not as I can't find a record of it. Linda

Penny
Forgot to add, they were in Brotton Yorkshire in the 1881 census. Her mother Jane and Eliza's two half sisters and step father Jonathan were also in Yorkshire - Marske in 1881.
Thanks Linda

1881 England Census
Ellen Emily Archer Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Step Daughter
Mother's Name: Jane Sparks
Gender: Female
Where born: Plastawmarsh, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Marske in Guisbrough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Street Address: 7 Cliff Street
Registration District: Guisborough Sub-registration District: Marske
ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Piece: 4841 Folio: 14 Page Number: 22
Jonathan C. Sparks 29 Ironstone Miner
Jane Sparks 24 CHANGED TO 34
Ellen Emily Archer 17
Sarah J. Archer 7 Brotton Yorkshire Step daughter
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4841; Folio: 14; Page: 22; GSU roll: 1342166.

1871 England Census

Name:Elizth Naman

Age:19

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1852

Relation:Servant
Gender:Female

Where born:Bath, Somerset, England

Civil Parish:Lyncombe and Widcombe

Ecclesiastical parish:South Lyncombe St Luke

Town:Bath

County/Island:Somerset

Country:England

Registration District:Bath

Sub-registration District:Lyncombe

ED, institution, or vessel:7

Household Schedule Number:45
Piece:2485
Folio:8
Page Number:9


Chloras Henry Drew 36
Fanny Drew 33
Elizth Drew 8
Alice Blanche Drew 6
Edwin Hamilton Drew 3
Florence Drew 1
Ellen Maria Drew 20
Ann Isaacs 21
Elizth Naman 19 <<<<<<<<


Looks like 'Norman' on the image

Gins,
That could be this one:
Births Mar 1852
Norman Elizabeth Bath 5c 739

Gins
Had a look at the UK census 1861 as well to see if this Elizth Naman is another person but there was no one born in Bath with a similar name. It could be her with just spelling mistakes. There was people with Naman as a surname in the 1861 census. Linda

Yeah I looked too. I found a death for Eliz* Norman in Bath in 1856 and am wondering if that's the girl that Patcham posted?

Gins
Eliza Norman's husband William Hall was born Peckham Surrey 1854-1855, they were married at Yorkshire, have not found marriage notification, but if could link the two in Bath Somerset area in the early 1870's, the census for 1871 were Elizth Naman is working in Bath could be her. Linda

Linda....This appears to be the Marriage


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1874 (>99%)
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Hall William Guisbro' 9d 728
Norman Eliza Jane Guisbro' 9d 728

Check out Guisbro' Reg District for Eliz.Alma's Birth 1877

There may have been other children prior to her birth....plenty Halls Listed.

Conflicting info, Linda.

You said in your opening post

Eliza and William Hall were married 1874 in Yorkshire.

and in your most recent

.............., have not found marriage notification



So, to clarify...................

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/



Marriages Mar 1874 (>99%)
Hall William Guisbro' 9d 728
Norman Eliza Jane Guisbro' 9d 728

If she knew her father.........his details will be on the marriage cert.

FMP tells me that I have accessed this record previously..................so there must be another thread

1861 census

Person: NORMAN, Eliza Jane Alma Address: Hog Street, Calne
Cost

ARCHARD, Jane Wife Married F 30 1831 Bacon Curers & Labourers Wife
Coleshill, Wiltshire VIEW
NORMAN, Eliza Jane Alma Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar
Bath, Somersetshire VIEW
ARCHARD, Henry George Son M 0 (9M) 1861
Bath, Somersetshire

Linda....
1870-1890 Reg.Guisbro' (Free BMD)

Births Mar 1874 (>99%)
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Archard Sarah Jane Guisbro' 9d 470

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Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%)
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Archard Jane Guisborough 9d 706

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Marriages Mar 1885 (>99%)
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Archard Ellen Emily Guisbro' 9d 633

Marriages Dec 1859 (>99%)
Archard George Calne 5a 137
Norman Jane Calne 5a 137

So Eliza was illegitimate................

Her mother in 1871???
1871 census
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Person: ARCHARD, Jane Address: Leeman Grove, East Rosedale

ARCHARD, George Head M 35 1836 Wiltshire VIEW
ARCHARD, Jane Wife F 39 1832 Wiltshire VIEW
ARCHARD, George Son M 10 1861 Wiltshire VIEW
ARCHARD, Ellen Daughter F 7 1864 Essex VIEW
SANDERS, Elizabeth A Servant F 15 1856 Devon