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martynsue

martynsue Report 20 Jun 2013 15:22

thank's for this info,it could be a big help maria was my ggrandmother's sister.

on the posting for Michael ( 1911 i think) the address 1 henry st is very interesting as my ggrandmother lived on henry st when she died in 1910,her son my grandfather was 17 at the time ,he was living her sister ( not maria ) on henry st.
so i think these are the correct record's for my family,

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Jun 2013 15:05

What did you think of the suggestions about possible remarriage of the mother Maria and that possible marriage etc for Michael

martynsue

martynsue Report 20 Jun 2013 14:35

i am still having trouble finding this family on the 1851 census, are the census record's on here the same as other site's,
i have tried looking for the family in Bradford and in Oldham,
i have looked under the parent's name's also the 2 children born 1842/3 and 1849.
please could someone see if they can locate them please.

thank's

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 20 Jun 2013 00:42

Wonder if this was her second husband's death?

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: James McNamara
Birth Date: abt 1869
Date of Registration: Mar 1922
Age at Death: 53
Registration District: Oldham
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 794

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Jun 2013 00:33

:-D

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Jun 2013 20:22

??

Name: Maria McNamara
Birth Date: abt 1870
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1949
Age at Death: 79
Registration District: Oldham
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10f
Page: 60



Still not found them in 1901

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Jun 2013 20:13

Looks like Maria had married again before the 1901 census came around:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915

Name: Maria Grady
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1900
Registration District: Oldham
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 832

Records on Page:
Name
Maria Grady
Violet Lees
James McNamara
Arthur Pownall
................................................................................................................

From Lancs BMD

Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
COONEY Maria MCNAMARA James Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended Oldham RM/93/96
GRADY Maria MCNAMARA James Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended Oldham RM/93/96
MCNAMARA James COONEY Maria Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended Oldham RM/93/96
MCNAMARA James GRADY Maria Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended Oldham RM/93/96

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Jun 2013 20:13

Name: Melinda Grady
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1952
Age at Death: 62
Registration District: Oldham
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10f
Page: 61

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Jun 2013 20:09

What about this entry

Marriages Jun 1910 (>99%)
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BURROWS Beatrice Oldham 8d 962
GARTH Melinda Oldham 8d 962
GRADY Michael Cooney Oldham 8d 962



Births Mar 1890 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Garth Melinda Oldham 8d 709

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Jun 2013 20:08

1911 again no idea if correct or not

Name: Michael Grady
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Oldham, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Henry St Oldham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Carter
Registration District: Oldham
Registration District Number: 469
Sub-registration District: Oldham East
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 24446
Household Members: Name Age
Michael Grady 20
Milindia Grady 21 - born Oldham

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Jun 2013 20:04

No idea if relevant or not

Name: Michael Grady
Birth Date: 15 Sep 1890
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1976
Age at Death: 85
Registration District: Oldham
Inferred County: Greater Manchester
Volume: 39
Page: 0095

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Jun 2013 20:02

Lancs BMD confirms the pairing on the 1892 marriage is correct:

COONEY Maria GRADY Patrick Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended Oldham RM/72/75

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Jun 2013 20:01

Not found them either

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Jun 2013 20:00

I'm now struggling to find a Patrick & Maria Grady in 1901 onwards.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Jun 2013 19:52

Thanks MarieCeleste

I did not check out when Mary died.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Jun 2013 19:51

Aha!

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915

Name: Maria Cooney
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1892
Registration District: Oldham
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 1014

Records on Page:
Name
Maria Cooney <<<
Patrick Grady <<<
Mary Alice Rydings
Richard Siddall

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Jun 2013 19:48

I don't think Michael is the son of Thomas and Mary.

The age of 6 months on the 1891 census is consistent with the birth record that Glitterbaby posted.

This appears to be Mary's death:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915

Name: Mary Cooney
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1891
Age at Death: 48
Registration District: Oldham
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 536

Not only had she already been dead for at least 6 months when he was born she was also a tad old (not altogether impossible age-wise but I think she would have had to be alive!)

He is more likely the son of one of the daughters - the middle name of Grady might be an indication as to his father.

Barry

Barry Report 17 Jun 2013 19:42

The 1861 census on Ancestry has the correct transcription COONEY although I must say it does look like CORNEY on the image

martynsue

martynsue Report 17 Jun 2013 19:35

thank you ,
the 1891 is the family,he is my gg grandfather and I have just started looking at Thomas to get further back,
1861 give's his parent's which is brilliant as I now have extra name's to match on any record's I find,

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Jun 2013 19:33

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Thomas Cooney
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1842
Registration District: Bradford
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 23
Page: 130

The certificate will tell you his mother's maiden name.