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yorksrene

yorksrene Report 7 Jun 2013 12:33

Hi,

I'm trying to find information about my 2x Gt Grandfather James Joseph William Breckon b c1822 in Poplar Middlesex according to census returns from 1851 on.

His father is listed as James (Deceased clerk) on his marriage certificate.


1851 Living Barnby, labourer in Alum industry.
1861 Living Kettleness, Jet miner.
1871 Living as a boarder in Glaisdale, Weighman in furnaces at ironstone mines.
1881 Living as a patient in Whitby Union Workhouse, Church Street Whitby.
1890 Died in Whitby Union Workhouse.

Can anyone help me find information about where he was between 1822 and !851. I have been told that sometimes when a daughter was widowed she returned home and took the family name again, could this be a possibilty or she may have remarried and become Breckon that way.

I just do not know where to start looking as I have no information on his mother.
If anyone could point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Jun 2013 12:43

'Deceased' fathers didn't always actually exist

Have you looked for a baptism?

Dea

Dea Report 7 Jun 2013 12:44

1841 census transcription details for: Dean Hall, Whitby, Ugglebarnby
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A 'possible' in 1841 (ages were rounded down on this census so he could have been aged 15 - 19 yrs.)

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1265
Book/Folio: 12/6
Page: 7
Reg. District: Whitby
Sub District: Egton
Parish: Whitby
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Dean Hall, Whitby, Ugglebarnby
County: Yorkshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
NESSFIELD, John M 30 1811 Yorkshire
NESSFIELD, Mary F 25 1816 Yorkshire
NESSFIELD, Hannah F 2 1839 Yorkshire
BRECKON, James M 15 1826 Yorkshire Ag Labr.

Dea x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Jun 2013 12:51

The surname seems to be located almost exclusively in Yorkshire.......................

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 7 Jun 2013 14:03

for ref 1871

Name: James J W Breckon
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Glaisdale
Ecclesiastical parish: Glaisdale
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration District: Whitby
Sub-registration District: Egton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household Schedule Number: 177
Piece: 4846
Folio: 36
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
John Heaviside 45
Hannah Heaviside 45
Elizabeth H Heaviside 13
Alfred Hodgson 7
James J W Breckon 49
William Weetman 23

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Jun 2013 14:34

Name: James J W Breckon
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 49
Relationship to Head of Household: Boarder
Birthplace: Poplar, Middlesex
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Whitby
Sub-District: Egton
Parish: Glaisdale
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self John Heaviside M 45 Bishopton, Durham
Wife Hannah Heaviside F 45 Cockerton, Durham
Daughter Elizabeth H Heaviside F 13 Norton, Durham
Nephew Alfred Hodgson M 7 Darlington, Durham
Boarder James J W Breckon M 49 Poplar, Middlesex
Boarder William Weetman M 23 Lythe, Yorkshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Jun 2013 14:39

connected?

Name: Joseph Breckon
Age (Original): 62
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1819
Birthplace: Poplar, Middlesex, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Patient
Marital Status: Widower
Occupation: General Labourer
Address: Whitby Union Workhouse Church Street
Event Place: Whitby, Yorkshire (North Riding), England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1342164
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 4833 / 125
Page Number: 35

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Jun 2013 14:40

??????????

Name: Elizabeth Breckon
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Gender: Female
Age: 53
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Birthplace: ... London
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Durham
Sub-District: 3 St Oswald
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Parish: Elvet
Residence County: Durham

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 7 Jun 2013 16:06

do you have James/Joseph's death certificate yorksrene?

I can find only one death in Whitby in the 1890

Deaths Jun 1890 (>99%)
Breckon Joseph 68 Whitby 9d 312

This Joseph has an entry in the probate index:-
died 6 June 1990
stonemason
widow Sarah of 9 West Terrace Whitby

Dea

Dea Report 7 Jun 2013 16:34

This is Sarah (the widow mentioned in the above probate) - mistranscribed on 1891:

1891 census
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Schedule Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born Image

BROCKSON, Sarah Head Widow F 64 1827 Lodging House Keeper Whitby, Yorkshire

at 9 West Terrace, Whitby.

Dea x

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 7 Jun 2013 16:45

and in 1881

Name: Sarah Breckon
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph Breckon
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitby, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Whitby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 9 West Ter
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration District: Whitby
Sub-registration District: Whitby

Joseph Breckon 58 - mason
Sarah Breckon 52

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 7 Jun 2013 17:12

Burial (Find My Past)
First name(s): Joseph
Last name: BRECKON
Date of burial 9 Jun 1890
Age at death: 68
Calculated year of birth: 1822
Place of burial Whitby
Dedication: St Mary (Cemetery)
County: Yorkshire (North Riding)
Whitby St Mary (Cemetery):
Denomination: Cemetery
Coverage 1885 - 1907
Data provider: Cleveland Family History Society

Chris :)

yorksrene

yorksrene Report 7 Jun 2013 17:50

Thank you everyone for your help

yorksrene

yorksrene Report 7 Jun 2013 17:53

Thank you Reggie for telling me ''Deceased fathers'' did not necessarily exist I did not know that.

yorksrene

yorksrene Report 7 Jun 2013 18:00

Thank you Dea, I had seen that 1841 census and did wonder about it plus then as now there are a lot of Breckons in the Whitby/North Yorkshire moor areas. The probate reference is not him as his wife Margaret died in 1865 coinciding with the birth of their youngest son.

yorksrene

yorksrene Report 7 Jun 2013 18:06

Thank you Lancashire Ann, No I don't have his death cert but a distant cousin gave me the info on his death.

yorksrene

yorksrene Report 7 Jun 2013 18:13

Thank you Chris Ho, this could well be him.

yorksrene

yorksrene Report 7 Jun 2013 18:15

Thank you Ann Cardiff, the Joseph Breckon in the Union Workhouse is almost certainly him as he was known as Joseph.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 7 Jun 2013 21:54

as the death & probate I gave you was for the ONLY Joseph Breckon who died in 1890 I think it is probable that your cousin has given you the wrong info.

the burial Chris gave you fits exactly with the Joseph whose wife was Sarah

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 7 Jun 2013 22:04

you put this in your opening post

" I have been told that sometimes when a daughter was widowed she returned home and took the family name again, could this be a possibilty or she may have remarried and become Breckon that way."

who was the daughter you are referring to please. It may help with identification.