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Wendy

Wendy Report 15 Apr 2013 16:52

Hi Can anyone please help ?
I need to find Richard Burrows on the 1841 census.I have all the other Info on him.
Richard Burrows (1815) Cumberland Cutter/Tailor
Diana Burrows (1814) Shadwell,Middx wife
Sarah Jane (1835) Stepney Middx daughter
Jane (1839) Stepney,Middx daughter

Thanks
Wendy

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 15 Apr 2013 17:28

Do you have the wrong birthdates for the children?

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Sarah Jane Burrows Name: Sarah Jane Burrows
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 25 Aug 1844
Father's Name: Richard Burrows
Mother's Name: Diana Burrows
Parish or Poor Law Union: Saint Dunstan, Stepney
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Jane Burrows Name: Jane Burrows
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: Sep 1848
Father's Name: Richard Burrows
Mother's Name: Diana Burrows
Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Apr 2013 17:31

Richard and Diana only married in 1838. Per FreeBMD, this is the only marriage in Middlesex for a Richard Burrows and a Diana.

Marriages Jun 1838 (>99%)

BURROWS Richard Bloomsbury 1 76
Langman Diana Bloomsbury 1 76

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Apr 2013 17:37

Name: Diana Langman
Spouse Name: Richard Burrows
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Apr 1838
Parish: Bloomsbury St George
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Richard Langman
Spouse Father Name: Edward Burrows
Register Type: Parish Register

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Apr 2013 17:38

may have been late baptisms

1851 census transcription details for: 3, Old Road, Saint Anne Limehouse
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1554
Folio: 185
Page: 8
Reg. District: Stepney
Sub District: Limehouse
Parish: Saint Anne Limehouse
Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 3, Old Road, Saint Anne Limehouse
County: Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BURROWS, Richard Head Married M 41 1810 Tailor
Cumberland
BURROWS, Diana Wife Married F 39 1812
London
BURROWS, Sarah Jane Daughter Unmarried F 15 1836 Scholar
London
BURROWS, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 12 1839 Scholar
London

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Apr 2013 17:38

To muddy the waters further, here's a Richard Burrows, born Cumberland, a tailor, married to an Elizabeth, not Diana, and living in Shadwell. [EDIT - Yes, it's him; Diana died.]


1871 England Census about Richard Burrows
Name: Richard Burrows
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Burrows
Gender: Male
Where born: Cumberland, England
Civil parish: Shadwell
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Shadwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 2
Piece: 544
Folio: 71
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Burrows 55
Elizabeth Burrows 39
George Burrows 17
Marian Burrows 12
Benjamin Burrows 9
Sarah Ann Burrows 6
Elizabeth Burrows 4
Jane Catherine Burrows 1

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Apr 2013 17:40

Deaths Dec 1857 (>99%)
Burrows Diana Stepney 1c 361

Gee

Gee Report 15 Apr 2013 17:58

Some of the censuses are missing from Middlesex


668 Middlesex Parish: St Luke
Townships:
West Finsbury
Golden-Lane Old Street
Whitecross-Street

680 Middlesex Parish: Paddington
690 Middlesex Parish: Kensington (part)
Townships:
Brompton
Kensall Green (part)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Apr 2013 18:33

Baptism
Day:25
Month:8
Year:1844
Forename:Sarah
Othernames:Jane
Surname:Burrows
Fathers forenames:Richard
Fathers occupation:Tailor
Mothers forenames:Diana
Address:Limehouse
Location of church:Stepney
Parish:St Dunstan
Church address:High Street
Entry No:227
Source Ref:X024/020

Baptism
Day:1
Month:5
Year:1864
Forename:Sarah
Othernames:Jane
Surname:Burrows
Fathers forenames:Richard
Fathers occupation:Tailor
Mothers forenames:Elizabeth
Birth date:08 April 1864
Address:6 Langdale St
Location of church:Stepney
Parish:St George In The East
Church address:Cannon Street Road
Entry No:1823
Source Ref:X024/135
Record source:Docklands Ancestors

Chris :)

(putting Stepney in keywords box (no other details) 1841, first 6 pages, might need checking!)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 15 Apr 2013 20:29

The birthdate for Jane Burrows who was baptised 1848 was 25 Aug. 1848. No birthdate given for Sarah Jane.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Apr 2013 22:40

Re the two Sarah Jane baptisms posted by Chris:

????
Deaths Mar 1861 (>99%)
BURROWS Sarah Jane Stepney 1c 412

Is the second Sarah Jane the Sarah Ann listed in 1871?

Birth of Jane Catherine who appears on 1871 census:
Births Dec 1869 (>99%)
BURROWS Jane Catherine Stepney 1c 463

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Apr 2013 22:42

But still no sign of Richard or Diana in 1841!

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Apr 2013 08:53

1861
BURROWS, Richard Head Married M 46 1815 Tailor
England
BURROWS, Diana Wife Married F 47 1814
N K
BURROWS, Jane Daughter F 12 1849
N K
Piece: 291
Folio: 122
Page: 20
Registration District: Mile End Old Town
Civil Parish:
Municipal Borough:
Address: 4, Jubilee Place
County: London

(is this another, if Diana Death 1857)

Chris :)

edits (probably another, looking at age of Jane)

Vicci

Vicci Report 16 Apr 2013 09:08

could be RIchard

occupation drapers apprentice

Name: Richard Burrows
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male

Civil parish: St Andrew Holborn (Above The Bars)
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

View image

Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St Andrew Western
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 670
Book: 11
Folio: 13
Page Number: 18

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Apr 2013 11:00

Hmmm - could be, Vicci, but the age is a bit out, and where's his wife?

This (below) is the only person in 1841 of right name and POB (age a couple of years out) per Ancestry, but in the image she's with a William Burrows, born c1811, so doesn't look like her:

1841 England Census about Dima Burrows
Name: Dima Burrows
[Diana Burrows]
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Clement Danes
Hundred: Westminster
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

View image

Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Clement Danes
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 731
Book: 4
Folio: 19
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Dima Burrows 25

[EDIT: Not her; this one is on later censuses, married to William Burrows]

Wendy

Wendy Report 16 Apr 2013 11:02

I am so so sorry.Having posted I had to deal with a crisis in the kitchen.
Thank you all.I did say 1841 only because the family details are confusing.Richard and his second wife,Elizabeth, both had children from first marriages.
The 1871 census names all the children as Burrows but the first three were Bartons.
Reason I needed 1841 census.
1851 shows Richard and Diana with children Sarah Jane aged 16 years and Jane aged 12 years,
1861 census shows them with Jane aged 12 years.
Did the first Jane die after 1851 ?if not she would have been 22 rather than 12 in 1861.
Sarah Jane was baptised 9 years after birth.
The Parish Record says that the Jane baptised in 1848 was born in 1848.I had at first thought that this was the Jane born c1839 (1851 census).

Wendy

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Apr 2013 11:04


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Diana Martin Langman
Name: Diana Martin Langman
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 Jun 1814
Father's Name: Richard Langman
Mother's Name: Susannah Langman
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shadwell, St Paul
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Apr 2013 11:36

The Jane situation doesn't make sense.

If there were two Janes, the first one would have had to die in 1851 or later, but the supposed second one was born before that, in 1848.
And where is she in 1851?

It looks as though the age given in 1851 should have been 2, although in the image it clearly says 12.

These are the only Jane Burrows born in Middlesex 1837-40 (per FreeBMD):

Births Mar 1838 (>99%)
Burrows Jane Staines 3 230
Births Sep 1839 (>99%)
Burrows Jane Clerkenwell 3 63

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Apr 2013 12:18

And the Diana situation doesn't make sense, either.
If she died in 1857 (and it's the only death of a Diana Burrows which comes up on FreeBMD in a likely place), what's she doing on the 1861 census?

It certainly seems to be the correct Richard on the 1861 record.

Wendy

Wendy Report 16 Apr 2013 12:29

Hi
I have Diana's death as 1862,buried 7/04/1862 in Camden.
It is possible that the Jane in 1861 was 22 rather than twelve or as argyllgran says the mistake could be on the 1851 census.
If I had the 1841 census it would show if there even was a daughter Jane born before 1841.
I need to do lots more work.