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DEREK'S FATHER WAS ALBERT VICTOR GASH - MOTHER WAS GLADYS ELEANOR NEE JAMES(MARRIED 1926). LAST informatio AROUND 1958. HE WAS LIVING IN EALING. DID HE GET MARRIED WERE THERE ANY CHILDREN.
DEREK (known as Bill) HAD A SISTER NAMED PAMELA WHO DIED C2006

Did he have a middle name?


No births showing for William Gash mothers maiden name James.
There is this..

Births Sep 1926
Gash Peter W James Cheltenham 6a 672




Parents marriage..

Name: Albert V Gash
Spouse Surname: James (Gladys E)
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1926
Registration district: Cardiff
Registration county (inferred): Glamorgan
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 728

Have you tried a search on this site or the electoral rolls
Liz

We found a reference to a William J Gash whose death was registered in Hackney 1994. Could this be the William Gash who lived with his parents Albert Victor and Gladys in Ealing in 1958?

Victor

This seems to be wrong Gash ( looking for Derek James Gash

The only registration in 1928 was for William J Gash in West Ham reg, district with mothers maiden name Cook . No other birth in 1928 for a William Gash.

Derek James Gash born 1929
Peter Wyndham Gash had same mother (Gladys Gash nee James) as Pamela Gash, but Peter was brought up in a seperate family Herbert S Richards and his wife Laura.
We understand there was little or no contact with his birth certificate mother Gladys and father Albert Victor Gash.
Derek lived with his mother Gladys at least until 1980

Do you have an address for them in Ealing in 1958?
If so, maybe a check of old electoral lists will show the full given name of William and onward checking will show when he left that address.

Gwyn

Found a possible old address for parents 1958 / 1963 which I will send if you need it.

Gwyn

Sent a possible birth via pm because I do not know whether or not this gentleman is alive or not.

1911 census for Albert Victor Gash


GASH, Albert Edward Head Married
22 years M 48 1863 Money Lender Berks Reading
GASH, Elizabeth Wife Married 22 years F 47 1864 Monmouth Newport
GASH, Albert Victor Son Single M 20 1891 Shipworkers Clerk Glamorgan Swansea
RICHARDS, Elizabeth Mother In Law Widow F 79 1832 Pembroke Pembroke
DAVIES, Rachel Servant Single F 24 1887 Domestic Servant General Carmarthen Gwrdy
RG number:RG14 Piece:32764 Reference:RG14PN32764 RG78PN1870 RD594 SD3 ED7 SN130
 
Registration District:Swansea
Sub District:Swansea Enumeration District:7
Parish:Swansea
 
Address:
6 Uplands Cresent Swansea

1901

GASH, Albert Edward Head Married M 36 1865 Financiers Manager Reading Berkshire
GASH, Albert Victor Son M 10 1891 Swansea Glamorganshire 
GASH, George Carlisle Son M 9 1892 Swansea Glamorganshire 
GRIFFITHS, Eliza Mary Servant Widow F 50 1851 House Keeper Domestic Oxford
RG number:RG13 Piece:5075 Folio:57 Page:11     
 
Registration District:Swansea
Sub District:Swansea
Enumeration District:9
Ecclesiastical Parish:St Gabriels
 
Civil Parish:Swansea Municipal Borough:
Address:118, Bryn Road, Swansea
County:Glamorganshire

1891

GASH, Albert E Head Married M 27 1864 Financier Manager
Reading Berkshire
GASH, Albert V Son M 0 (6M) 1891 At Home Swansea Glamorganshire
GASH, Elizabeth Wife Married F 26 1865 House Managing
Reading Berkshire
ISAAC, Lucy Servant Single F 23 1868 Servant Swansea Glamorganshire
ISAAC, Nelly Servant F 12 1879 Nurse Swansea Glamorganshire
RG number:RG12 Piece:4477 Folio:54 Page:12     
 
Registration District:Swansea
Sub District:Swansea
Enumeration District:3
Ecclesiastical Parish:Swansea
 
Civil Parish:Swansea Town and Franchise
Municipal Borough:Swansea
Address: 16, Goat Street, Swansea Town And Franchise, Swansea County:Glamorganshire 

Elizabeth in 1901

GASH, Elizabeth Boarder Married F 36 1865 Daily Visiting Nurse Newport Monmouthshire
RG number:RG13 Piece:5076 Folio:150 Page:8     
 
Registration District:Swansea
Sub District:Swansea
Enumeration District:21
Ecclesiastical Parish:St Mary
 
Civil Parish:Swansea
Municipal Borough:
Address:6& 7, (Nursing Institute), Brunswick Place, Swansea County:Glamorganshire

Tooty Fruity

Thank very much for all your inputs. All very helpful and in particular the Census information 1891, 1901 and 1911.
the lead on William ( mother Gladys James) will be followed up as soon as possible.
I have a lead from Julie that suggests a William Gash born c1929 West London could be a lead but could be my own feedback from a guess I made a year ago Feb 2010

Victor I have searched freebmd, ancestry and findmypast for a birth for William Gash with mothers maiden name from 1920 to 1935 and there is none coming up.

Why do you think he was born in London? His father was from Swansea and his parents married in Cardiff. His half brother Peter William was born in Cheltenham and Pamela was born Hendon.

Why do you think he was born 1928/1929?

I also suspect is mother was from Glamorgan too.

Have sent address from old phone books for an A.V GASH in Ealing area.
They were at the same address for at least 1946 to 1963 listings.

No idea if it is the correct family.

Gwyn

TootyFruity,
Good question. William's birth place was a not very inspired guess on my part. I only ever met him when he lived with his parents in Ealing in 1957.
Assuming William was older than sister Pamela, and his age was only a guess by me ,it is quite likely he was born in the Glamorgan area.
I will get a copy of William E T Birth Cert to see if we have the correct William.
Ref William E T James Neath 11a 1716 Dec 1924
Victor
Wrong Birth Cert. We now know its Derek James Gash we are seeking

Once you have the certificate please come back and give us an update :-)

Tootyfruity
Your suggestion regarding death certificate(1982 Mar Vol 12 page 0100) of Gladys Eleanor Gash( nee James) has given us a new lead. Everything on the certificate checks except the son's first name who as the informant gives his name as Derek James Gash. This is a surprise as he was always known to our end of the family as Bill or to his sister Pam as Billy Boy.
Our assumption that his birth name was William seems to be wrong. We are now looking for Derek James Gash as son of Gladys Eleanor Gash (nee James). Your ref to William E T James birth cert( 1924 Dec Vol 11a page 1716) proved to be wrong as Mother is Martha Jamesand Father David James.Tanks for your help

Victor