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steph kim
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30 Jan 2019 20:49 |
Looking for my dads side of the family
Joyce O'Neill - dec-1929 moved to california usa Phillis O'Neill - dec 1934 Evelyn O'Neill - jun 1936 Bernard O'Neill - dec 1955
My grandparents details below they have both passed away Philip and Mary married june 1929 liverpool
Philip 14/2/1911 seaman merchant service/ dock labour Mary -jane (Thomas ) 1912
Also looking for more info on my grandmothers line, i have been told great grandparents william thomas and emily (Carr) thomas
I have hit a wall and i lost my dad when i was 14 so didnt find out much they were all born in liverpool i think wavertree area
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30 Jan 2019 21:49 |
Phillip O`Neill New York, New York Passenger and Crew Lists, 1909, 1925-1957
Name: Phillip O`Neill Event Type: Immigration Event Date: 1944 Event Place: New York City, New York, United States Gender: Male Age: 33 Birth Year (Estimated): 1911 Birthplace: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Mauretania
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30 Jan 2019 21:52 |
philip Oniel England and Wales Census, 1911
Name: Philip Oniel Event Type: Census Event Date: 1911 Event Place: Everton, Everton Liverpool, Lancashire, England County: Lancashire Parish: Everton Sub-District: South Everton Sub-District Number: 8 District Number: 455 Enumeration District: 24 Registration District: West Derby Gender: Male Age: 0 Number in Family: 6 Birth Year (Estimated): 1911 Birthplace: Lpool, Lancashire Relationship to Head of Household: Son Schedule Type: 96 Page Number: 1 Registration Number: RG14 Piece/Folio: 199 Affiliate Record Identifier: GBC/1911/RG14/22537/0199/5 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Richard Oniel Head Male 28 Lpool, Lancashire Maud Mary Oniel Wife Female 26 Lpool, Lancashire Sarah Oniel Daughter Female 5 Lpool, Lancashire Charles Oniel Son Male 2 Lpool, Lancashire Philip Oniel Son Male 0 Lpool, Lancashire Thomas Patton Lodger Male 29 Lpool, Lancashire
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30 Jan 2019 22:21 |
Would this be Phillip & Mary nee Thomas?
1939 Register O'Neill Household (4 People) 34 Gloucester Road , Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England
Philip P O'Neill 14 Feb 1911 Male Able Seaman Married Mary J O'Neill 16 Nov 1913 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Stanley O'Neill 14 Jul 1938 Male Under School Age Single
The closed record represents someone born less than 100 years ago and for whom a death entry has not (yet) been found in England or Wales.
Stanley's birth reg Births Sep 1938 (>99%) O'Neill Stanley mmn Thomas Liverpool S. 8b 303
As he isn't in your list, do you already know about him?
Birth entry for the third name on your list, b 1934, is Phyllis. https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
There are several other O'Neill/Thomas births recorded in Liverpool South reg
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30 Jan 2019 22:43 |
Is this relevant for Joyce? You didn't say if she was married when she moved to California, or even when.
Name: Joyce O'Neill Residence Year: 1976 Street address: 558 E 6th St Residence Place: Stockton, San Joaquin, California, USA Publication Title: Stockton, California, City Directory, 1976
No other O'Neill's at the same address. No occupation against her name.
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30 Jan 2019 22:44 |
Have you tried searching all trees, top right under search? If any of the missing ones are listed, send the tree owner a message has further details for them.
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30 Jan 2019 23:02 |
Keep looking at this - do you know Joyce's exact dob?
Application for naturalisation by John Edward Gibbons, born 7 Nov 1931 in Liverpool. He says his wife is Lynda Joyce nee O'Neill b 13 Dec 1929. They married on 25 Jul 1953 in Liverpool. They emigrated on 11 Oct 1957. Address given as 970 Gull Ave, Gull City, San Mateo, CA.
Name: Lynda Joyce O'Neill Birth Date: 13 Dec 1929 Petition Place: California, USA Spouse: John Edward Gibbons
Lynda Joyce only used Joyce at the time of her marriage.
First name(s) JOHN E Last name GIBBONS Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1953
MarriageFinder ™ JOHN E GIBBONS married one of these people Joyce O'Neill
Spouse's last name O'Neill District Liverpool North County Lancashire Country England Volume 10D Page number 856 ...... Can't find a birth for a Linda or Lynda O'Neill in Dec 1929 or Jan 1930. Perhaps someone else can spot it?
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30 Jan 2019 23:12 |
Following through with Lynda Joyce Gibbons nee O'Neill. It can be deleted later if she's proved to be unrelated.
She seems to have remarried in 1972 (no image to check marital status)
Name: Lynda J Gibbons Gender: Female Residence State: California Spouse: Albert L Hook Spouse Residence State: California Marriage Date: 3 Jun 1972 Marriage County: Douglas Officiant Type: Religious celebrant Recorded Date: 5 Jun 1972 Recorded County: Douglas
U.S. Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 2 Name: Lynda J Hook Birth Date: 13 Dec 1929 <<< same dob as the naturalisation record Address: xxx Fairington Dr, Summerville, SC
Name: Lynda J Hook Birth Date: 13 Dec 1929 Address: xxx Steuben Dr, Sunnyvale, CA
Neither Index entry indicates a year of residence
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30 Jan 2019 23:49 |
Births Dec 1912 (>99%) THOMAS Mary J Carr W.Derby 8b 1146
Parents ???
Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%) Carr Mary E Liverpool 8b 3 THOMAS William Liverpool 8b 3
Mary Emily Carr in the Liverpool, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932 Name: Mary Emily Carr Gender: Female Event Type: Banns (Bann) Marriage Banns Date: 6 Nov 1910 Marriage Banns Place: Liverpool, St Stephen the Martyr, Lancashire, England Spouse: William Thomas
Mary Emily Carr in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Mary Emily Carr Gender: Female Birth Date: 14 Mar 1892 Baptism Date: 27 Mar 1892 Baptism Place: All Souls, Liverpool, Lancaster, England Father: John Carr Mother: May Jane Carr FHL Film Number: 1656147
Mary E Carr in the 1901 England Census Name: Mary E Carr Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1892 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: John Carr Mother: Mary J Carr Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: West Derby Ecclesiastical parish: Edge Hill St Stephen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: West Derby, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 66 Neighbors: Piece: 3496 Folio: 70 Page Number: 33 Household schedule number: 194 Household Members: Name Age John Carr 50 Mary J Carr 51 John A R Carr 25 Edith A Carr 22 Robert J Carr 20 William Carr 17 Thomas Carr 15 Albert Carr 13 Henry Carr 10 Mary E Carr 9
Mary Emily Thomas in the 1911 England Census Name: Mary Emily Thomas Age in 1911: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1892 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 12 Albert St Edge Hill Liverpool Marital status: Married Occupation: Housekeeper Registration district: West Derby Registration District Number: 455 Sub-registration district: West Derby Western ED, institution, or vessel: 56 Piece: 22608 Household Members: Name Age William Thomas 20 Mary Emily Thomas 19 Gladys Eva Thomas 2/12
Mary Emily Thomas in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Mary Emily Thomas Death Age: 79 Birth Date: 14 Mar 1892 Registration Date: Mar 1971 Registration district: Liverpool Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 10d Page: 842
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steph kim
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31 Jan 2019 15:35 |
I am sure that my grandfather phillip did'nt immergrate to america, so this must be another man with same name.
the next two post match up with the info i have, yes i know about uncle stanley,
WIth auntie joyce its a bit of a grey area, i know she married her boss and divorved him and went to america where she started afresh and poss remarried and has 2 children, but this is something i am not sure of, i heard she goes by joy, joyce and lynn.
yes i have been searching the family trees and there is a cousin or second cousin of my dads or grandads and they have not been able to add any more,
I will find a address if i can for joyce or lynda and see if its the right lady.
and the details for my great grandparents this could be correct i have no idea, no one seems to know about that side of the family, i am very greatful for all the help and support so far, if anyone has any other information to ether confirm the above or has new information, i am desperate to try and make contact with my family,
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31 Jan 2019 15:51 |
The record for Philip is merely his arrival in the US. You said he was a seaman, so it fits
Joyce's birth reg - only one forename
Births Dec 1929 (>99%) O'Neill Joyce Thomas Liverpool S. 8b 190
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31 Jan 2019 16:02 |
O'NEILL, PHILIP ORD GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 546
Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)
O'Neill Richard Joseph Toxteth Park 8b 327 Ord Maud Toxteth Park 8b 327
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31 Jan 2019 16:05 |
O'NEILL, CHARLES JOHN ORD GRO Reference: 1908 S Quarter in TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 147
O'NEILL, RICHARD JOSEPH ORD GRO Reference: 1915 D Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 992
O'NEILL, SARAH ORD GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 152
O'NEILL, MARY ELIZABETH ORD GRO Reference: 1913 S Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 1069
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31 Jan 2019 16:07 |
1939
41 Moscow Drive , Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England
Richard J O'Neill 26 Nov 1915 Male Upholsterers Labourer Married 103 1 May O'Neill 06 May 1916 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 103 2 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
May's maiden name was Harland. Use freebmd to look for the births of the children
Name: Richard Joseph O'Neill Residence Year: 1955 Street address: Stonewall Street 53 Residence Place: Lancashire, England
Name: Richard Joseph O'Neill Death Age: 75 Birth Date: 26 Nov 1915 Registration Date: Jul 1991 Registration district: West Lancashire Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 40 Page: 1953
Name: Richard Joseph Oneill Death Date: 10 Jul 1991 Death Place: Skelmersdale Lancs Probate Date: 1 Aug 1991 Registry: Liverpool
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31 Jan 2019 16:12 |
Name: Richard Joseph O'Neill Death Age: 57 Birth Date: abt 1890 Death Date: 1947 Burial Date: 15 Jan 1947 Burial Place: Ford Cemetery, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Deaths Sep 1962 (>99%) O'NEILL Maud M 75 Liverpool N. 10d 320
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31 Jan 2019 18:27 |
I'd suggest you buy a copy of Joyce's BC to see if it matches to Lynda Joyce. If she was known as Lyn, it does give credence that she's the same person.
If that is the case, her last know surname, as at 1972, was Hook.
She lived as Hook in both California & South Carolina, but which way round, no one knows!
Reference for Birth as posted earlier
Births Dec 1929 (>99%) O'Neill Joyce (mmn) Thomas Liverpool S. Vol 8b Page 190
Similar format for Liverpool marriage in case you wanted to know the name of her father as a checking point.
Marriages Sep 1953 (>99%) O'NEILL Joyce (married) GIBBONS Liverpool N. Vol 10d Page 856
Order from https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp Each certificate would cost £9.25 inc P&P. The cost is going up to £11 on 16 Feb.
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1 Feb 2019 10:00 |
Is the tree on Ancestry yours, Steph?
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1 Feb 2019 10:24 |
Another record for Lynda/Lynn/Lynne Joyce O'Neill/Hook. This one's dated
U.S. Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 1
Dr Lynne Joyce Oneill [Lynn J Hook] Birth Date: 13 Dec 1929 Phone Number: 245-2677 Address: 783 Steuben Dr, Sunnyvale, CA, 94087-2247 (1993)
Full address given as a different name is on the Property Evaluation. http://www.city-data.com/santa-clara-county-ca/S/Steuben-Drive-1.html
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1 Feb 2019 11:46 |
Name: William Thomas Gender: Male Marriage Age: 20 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1890 Marriage Date: 6 Nov 1910 Marriage Place: Liverpool, St Stephen the Martyr, Lancashire, England Search Photos: Search for 'Liverpool, St Stephen the Martyr' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: Frederick Thomas ===== a porter Spouse: Mary Emily Carr
1901 Name: William Thomas Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Father: Frederick Thomas Mother: Sarah Thomas Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: West Derby Search Photos: Search for 'West Derby' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: Edge Hill St Stephen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: West Derby, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 66 Neighbors: Piece: 3496 Folio: 62 Page Number: 18 Household schedule number: 77 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Thomas 35 Sarah Thomas 34 George F Thomas 17 Charles Thomas 15 William Thomas 11 Sarah Thomas 8 Elizabeth R Thomas 6
1891 Name: William Thomas Gender: Male Age: 9/12 Relationship: Son Birth Year: 1890 Father: Frederick Thomas Mother: Sarah Thomas Birth Place: Liverpool, Liverpool Civil Parish: West Derby Residence Place: West Derby, Lancashire, England Sub registration district: West Derby (Municipal) ED, Institution or Vessel: 10 Neighbors: Piece: 2989 Folio: 55 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Thomas 25 Sarah Thomas 25 George F Thomas 7 Charles J Thomas 6 William Thomas 9/12 George Penketh 26 Jessie Penketh 22 John Wilson 48 Elizabeth Wilson 46
FREDERICK Last name THOMAS Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1882 Registration month -
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Sarah Gillespie, Eliza Stewart District Liverpool District number - County Lancashire Country England Volume 8B Volume as transcribed 8B Page number 159
Frederick Last name Thomas Birth year 1866 Birth parish Liverpool Birth town Liverpool Birth county Lancashire Birth country England Service number 1212 Regiment King's (Liverpool Regiment) Year 1887 Attestation date 22 Feb 1887 Attestation age years 21 Attestation service number 1212 Attestation corps 3th Battalion The King'S Liverpool Regiment Document type Attestation Series Wo 96 - Militia Service Records 1806-1915 Archive The National Archives Archive reference WO 96 Box 199 Box record number 20 Record set British Army Service Records
1911 Name: Frederick Thomas Age in 1911: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: West Derby Search Photos: Search for 'West Derby' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 31 Garden St Marital status: Married Occupation: Cotton Porter =========== Registration district: West Derby Registration District Number: 455 Sub-registration district: West Derby Western ED, institution, or vessel: 56 Piece: 22608 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Thomas 45 Sarah Thomas 44 Charles Thomas 25 Sarah Thomas 18 Rebecca Thomas 16
1871 Minshull Street, West Derby, Lancashire, England Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Charles Thomas Head - Male 34 1837 - Lancashire, England Sarah Thomas Wife - Female 34 1837 - Lancashire, England Charles Thomas Son - Male 10 1861 - Lancashire, England William Thomas Son - Male 8 1863 - Lancashire, England Frederick Thomas Son - Male 6 1865 - Lancashire, England Ellen Thomas Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Lancashire, England Alfred Thomas Nephew - Male 20 1851 - Lancashire, England George Owens Boarder - Male 21 1850 - Lancashire, England Jacob Thomas Father - Male 73 1798 - Lancashire, England =============
JACOB Last name THOMAS Marriage year 1820 Marriage day 19 Marriage month Dec Church St Peter, Church St Place LIVERPOOL Groom's first name(s) Jacob Groom's last name Thomas Groom's occupation Mariner Groom's parish Liverpool Bride's first name(s) Ann Bride's last name Brade Bride's marital status Spinster Bride's parish Liverpool Banns or licence Licence County Lancashire
1851 Name: Jacob Thomas Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Thomas Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Liverpool Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View image Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St Thomas ED, institution, or vessel: 1l Neighbors: Household schedule number: 117 Piece: 2181 Folio: 423 Page Number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Jacob Thomas 43 Ann Thomas 45 Sarah A Thomas 24 Elizabeth Thomas 22 Charles Thomas 16 --- APPRENTICE TO SAIL MAKER Eliza Thomas 13 Alfred Thomas 2
1881 147, Back Gill Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Charles Thomas Head Married Male 45 1836 Sailmaker Liverpool, Lancashire, England Sarah Thomas Wife Married Female 46 1835 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England Charles Thomas Son Single Male 21 1860 Sailmaker Liverpool, Lancashire, England William Thomas Son Single Male 19 1862 Painter Liverpool, Lancashire, England Frederick Thomas Son Single Male 17 1864 Cellarman Liverpool, Lancashire, England Sarah Ellen Thomas Daughter Single Female 13 1868 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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1 Feb 2019 12:13 |
Sarah Last name Gillespie Gender Female Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1866 Baptism date 01 Apr 1866 Residence Liverpool, Lancashire, England Place Liverpool County Lancashire Country England Father's first name(s) William Father's last name Gillespie Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Mother's last name Gillespie Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
WILLIAM PATRICK Last name GILLESPIE Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1865 Registration month -
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Maria Williams, Elizabeth Letitia Thornhill District Liverpool District number - County Lancashire Country England Volume 8B Volume as transcribed 8B Page number 344
GILLESPIE, SARAH THORNHILL Order GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 432
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