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David S E Black

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Danetree

Danetree Report 24 Dec 2018 21:28

Born 1929 Thanet Kent son of John Black and Wheeler Coles Mrs W Black died in 1934.Unable to find out what happened to him.Can anyone help

Kay????

Kay???? Report 24 Dec 2018 22:07


Births Jun 1929 (>99%)

Black
David S E
Coles
Thanet
2a
1780


This is the only registered birth in 1929 for David Black,SE.

This is from the 1939 register,

Name:
David Black
Gender:
Male
Marital Status:
Single
Birth Date:
15 Jun 1929
Residence Year:
1939
Address:
54
Residence Place:
Southport, Lancashire, England
Occupation:
At School
Schedule Number:
57
Sub Schedule Number:
5
Enumeration District:
NQBG
Household Members:
Name
Dora H Pearson
Annie Shankland
George C Shankland
This record is officially closed.


Could he have been sent to relatives or evacuated from the coastal area.?

Danetree

Danetree Report 24 Dec 2018 22:23

He had three sisters,and they went with their father when he married again,but David is missing at this point.
sisters
Sylvia A W Black 1928
Elizabeth M E M Black 1925
Dorothy Myers 1917
2nd Wife Emily A Atyeo 1899-1979

malyon

malyon Report 24 Dec 2018 22:46

David Black
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007

birth: 15 June 1929
death registration: November 1991 Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Kay????

Kay???? Report 24 Dec 2018 23:03


The 1939 register doesn't give anymore results for a David Black born in 1929.


Some other children in that road appear to be listed as Deaf

Did David have a hearing problem.....?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Dec 2018 09:14

It may help getting the cert for his actual birth date

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Dec 2018 12:30


Name: David S. E., black
Grove Farm
Residence Year: 1954
Parliamentary Division: Cirencester and Tewkesbury
Residence Place: Gloucestershire, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Dec 2018 14:14

His birth was reg June qtr but not necessarily born in June

Think a mid June birth may not have been reg before end June

There is a birth too in Liverpool area for a david black that may equate to the death posted


Births Sep 1929
Black David Lloyd W.Derby 8b 531

malyon

malyon Report 25 Dec 2018 19:17

the david black in 1939 reg born 15th june is why i put the death in 1991 liverpool same brith date

Danetree

Danetree Report 25 Dec 2018 22:34

Thank you for the information. I do hot think David was in Liverpool. I did wonder if he died at or near his birth in Kent but unable to find a record of same.His parents John and Wheeler Black moved to Wales as John worked on the railway. Wheeler -maiden name Coles had family in Pewsey Wiltshire,he may have moved there to live
I'll check out the Cirencester connection for David S E Black in 1954
Thanks again-Merry Xmas.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Dec 2018 10:28

The 1954 address is not in Cirencester - that's the parliamentary division

It is Cherington, Stroud.

No-one else with the same surname at the Farm

Have you traced the sisters?



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Dec 2018 10:36

Name: Wheeler Black
Death Age: 37
Birth Date: abt 1897
Registration Date: Dec 1934
Registration district: Pontypridd
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 638

What happened to her first husband? The father of Dorothy..........................

Births Sep 1917 (>99%)
Myers Dorothy M L Coles Pewsey 5a 196

Marriages Mar 1917 (>99%)
Coles Wheeler O Myers Pewsey 5a 219
Myers Leslie J Coles Pewsey 5a 219

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Dec 2018 10:51

Not with Uncles Fritz and Hugh in 1939

Coles Household (5 People)
Wrexham Bearwood Road , Wokingham M.B., Berkshire, England

Fritz Coles 12 Nov 1900 Male Public Works Contractor Labourer Heavy Work Married 232 2
Dora (E) Coles 20 Mar 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 232 1
Gladys Odell (Coles) 12 Aug 1911 Female Canteen Worker Woodley Aerodrome Married 232 3
Hugh (P L) Coles 09 Jan 1905 Male General Labourer Heavy Work Married 232 4
Jo?n (P) Coles 07 Nov 1932 Male At School Single 232 5

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Dec 2018 11:24

His grandmother and aunt in 1939

Coles Household (6 People)
38 Woosehill Lane , Wokingham M.B., Berkshire, England


Mary A E Coles 30 Oct 1875 Female Household Duties Widowed 143 1
Daisy Tyrrell 31 Aug 1914 Female Household Duties (Unpaid Married 143 2
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Oliver A Tyrrell 14 Jul 1906 Male Aircraft Porter At Drome Married 143 6

Only twoTyrrell/Coles children born between date of marriage and date of register

Perhaps the other closed record is David...................not sure how you would be able to find out

Danetree

Danetree Report 26 Dec 2018 20:58

Dorothy Myers father Lesley J Myers b 1891 of Chewton Victoria Australia married 1917 Pewsey Wheeler Olivia Coles 1897 - 1934. Marriage failed so Dorothy and her mother returned to the UK
W O Coles married John Black 1894 - 1975 at Wokingham Berks
Elizabeth M E M Black 1925 Wokingham
Sylvia W A Black 1928
David S E Black 1929

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Dec 2018 21:22

Any thoughts on the info I posted?

Danetree

Danetree Report 26 Dec 2018 22:16

Yes thank you for your effort,most of the info I have.
A phone call from my cousin Jean Black prompted me to open research on David.-1929
David would be half brother to Jean ( 1938.)I knew her half sisters,and one may still be alive with the knowledge in an unknown location. It's that gap between 1929 to 1934 that's the problem.
I will get the birth certificate and start again

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 Dec 2018 09:37

Don't think you will find online any info for 1929- 1934

It may be they were living at the address on mrs Coles death cert for those years

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 Dec 2018 09:56

How about school records? He might just about have been old enough for Primary School when his mother died.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 Dec 2018 10:03

It may help to know his full name not. just the second initials

If he passed after 2007 then the record won't be online