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Finding Relatives in Australia and New Zealand.

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mary

mary Report 5 Apr 2014 14:37

On researching my Grandfathers family I found that some of his siblings emigrated to Australia and New Zealandso there is a great possibility I may still have some living relatives. Any ideas on how I would go about finding them.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 5 Apr 2014 17:04

Hi Mary.
Do you know names/birthplaces etc for your grandfather's siblings, or his parents? If so, you might try looking for matches by using search box above - if you find any, you can contact the tree owner.
If not, I advise you to make it a priority to get that info first.
Jan

mary

mary Report 5 Apr 2014 17:24

Hi Jan. Yes I have all that information,I'll have a look for matches. The only thing I don't know is who went where and when. Nice to chat to another brummie( my ex husband was a Myatt). Mary.

jax

jax Report 5 Apr 2014 18:58

If they went before 1960 you should find them on the passenger lists

If you do not have access give us some details and we can take a look

mary

mary Report 5 Apr 2014 20:25

Hi Jax, I don't have access to the passenger lists, what details do you need. They may have gone in the early 1900's. Mary

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 5 Apr 2014 22:48

Wonder if your ex is related to my BH - how weird that would be! :-D

jax

jax Report 5 Apr 2014 23:24

Names, when and where born have you found any marriages for them by using freebmd?

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 6 Apr 2014 10:17

If they emigrated before WW1 and the males were of military age, you might find their Australian service records on

http://www.naa.gov.au/

Select Search the collection from the left hand column
Then Record Search
Name search along the green tab (you could also try Passenger Arrivals Index as a separate search)
Fill in the surname and select WW1 as the category of records.
If there are too many results, use the first name as a filter.

Unlike the UK, their records have survived.
You may also find previews of WW2 records in a new search, but as some may relate to living people, these are 'locked'.

Ru

Ru Report 6 Apr 2014 10:33

Mary - just some names and I will look for you.

Sappho (NZ)

mary

mary Report 6 Apr 2014 15:38

Sappho - Surname is King all born in Birmingham, John, Arthur,Herbert, Robert,Frank and Mark. Thanks Mary.

jax

jax Report 6 Apr 2014 15:43

When?

mary

mary Report 6 Apr 2014 15:44

jax, Have looked on the freebmd records, with no luck.

jax

jax Report 6 Apr 2014 16:20

If you know there names you must know the years that they were born

mary

mary Report 7 Apr 2014 14:13

John C1871, Arthur C1875, Herbert C1877, Robert C1879, Frank not known,Mark C`1881. all found on Family Search Web Site.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 8 Apr 2014 00:12

also Mary (all basic info to start is always wise!) -- their parents' given names and also any middle names any of them had

their names are fairly common to be looking in records for.

if they went to NSW, for example, their death record in the searchable on-line index won't show their age, but should state their parents' given names (assuming that the person who reported their death knew them)

if you can identify deaths, the death certificate should name their spouse and children

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births
(births and deaths)

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Graphics/indeximages/marriages.gif
(marriages)

NSW is the easiest state to search ... other states have similar indexes on line, with varying degrees of info available without paying.

for example, 1900-1983 there were 10 Mark Kings who died in NSW ... 3 were plain Mark with no middle name ... fathers were Norman, William, Austin, Maurice, Stanley, Frederick, John, Arthur


this looks like your household in the 1881 census

Henry King 42
Ann King 41
Selina King 16
William H. King 14
Emma G. King 12
John W. King 10
Arthur King 6
Herbert King 4
Robert King 2
Frank King 5 months
Alfred J. Smallman 26 uncle


for surname King with parents Henry and Ann, NSW shows deaths to match your names ...

William 1952 (mother Ann Eliza)

and that's it actually, so it looks like NSW was not a likely destination for them

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 8 Apr 2014 00:26

the births can all be found on freebmd as noted

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

for instance

Births Jun 1874
King Arthur James Birmingham 6d 218

middle names and correct dates of birth can be important for identification

I would think there is a good chance that this is Arthur's death

Name: Arthur J King
Birth Date: abt 1875
Date of Registration: Mar 1940
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 448

probably his family in 1911

Arthur James King 36 coal merchant born Birmingham
Emily King 34
Henry King 14
Emily King 12
Winifred King 7

father Henry was a coal dealer in 1881

mary

mary Report 11 Apr 2014 12:14

Thanks for all the information, coal merchants ran in the family.