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Wylie, Sir Charles Bruce Gardner and Dill

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Angela

Angela Report 14 Sep 2013 16:43

Any members of these families out there. Lost branch- carol :-D

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Sep 2013 16:50

When ?

Where ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Sep 2013 16:56

Sir Charles Bruce-Gardner 1st Baronet Bruce-Gardner (6 November 1887 - 1 October 1960), was an English industrialist, specialising in mechanical and aircraft production.

Born Charles Bruce Gardner in London, he was the son of Henry Gardner and Florence Arliss. Educated at St. Dunstan's College and Battersea College of Technology, he was registered as a member of the Institution of Mechanical Engineers.

A director of John Summers & Sons from 1913, he subsequently became chairman of the John Lysaght Group He was also deputy-chairman of the Steel Company of Wales, a director of the Consett Iron Company and GKN, and chairman of British Iron and Steel Federation. He later became president of the Iron and Steel Institute.

Appointed an industrial advisor to the Governor of the Bank of England, as Chairman of the Society of British Aircraft Constructors from 1938 to 1943, he advised on the Shadow factory plan.[1]

Changing his name by deed poll on 21 December 1937 to Charles Bruce-Gardner, he was knighted in the New Years honours list of 1938. He was created 1st Baronet Bruce-Gardner, of Frilford, Berkshire, on 12 February 1945.



Who is Wylie and Dill ?

Who exactly are you looking for ?

1911 census with wife Gertrude Amy
Marriages Mar 1911 (>99%)
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Gardner Charles B Lewisham 1d 1101
Nankivell Amy M Lewisham 1d 1101
SHILL Gertrude A Lewisham 1d 1101
Wren Alfred E Lewisham 1d 1101

jax

jax Report 14 Sep 2013 17:09

Welcome to the boards Angela

I would look in the search trees for any connections if I were you

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Sep 2013 00:18

How much research have you done, Angela?


Try looking at......................


http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Angela

Angela Report 17 Oct 2013 00:00

William Hall Gardner b. 1890 Catford Lewisham, was Henry Gardner's Nephew. Henry is Sir Charles Bruce Gardner's father. The info is sensitive and I would prefer not to broadcast it . His son by a legitimate marriage was my father. I would like any photos or info.of his kin as they would be sentimental to me. My father was dislocated from the family in 1925 when he was a baby and nothing was heard from since. William Hall's mother was Katherine Parker Dill. Thank you.

jax

jax Report 17 Oct 2013 00:21

Have you looked to see if anyone have these people in their trees as I mentioned above?

Very unlikey that anyone connected will see this in the near future

Angela

Angela Report 17 Oct 2013 02:07

Tried a lot of avenues and not successful. Thanx, Angela :-(

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Oct 2013 11:01

1891 census

Person: GARDNER, William H Address: 6, Medusa Road, Lewisham

GARDNER, Peter A Head Married M 27 1864 Bank Clerk
Scotland VIEW
GARDNER, Katherine P Wife Married F 29 1862
Scotland VIEW
GARDNER, William H Son M 0 (11M) 1891
Lewisham, Kent VIEW
DILL, Jane Sister In Law Single F 30 1861
Scotland VIEW
GRIFFITHS, Mary A Servant F 14 1877 General Servant Domestic
Brockley, Kent

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Oct 2013 11:04

At least one other member has Katherine in a GR tree...........have you been in touch?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Oct 2013 11:06

1871 census


Person: DILL, Katherine P Address: Chapel Place House, Dollar

DOWIE, Jessie W Head Unmarried F 29 1842 Governess Greenock, Renfrewshire
N/A
DILL, Elizabeth F 12 1859 Scholar Colmonel, Ayrshire
N/A
DILL, Jane F 10 1861 Scholar Colmonel, Ayrshire
N/A
DILL, Katherine P F 9 1862 Scholar Colmonel, Ayrshire
N/A
DILL, Euphemia F 7 1864 Scholar Colmonel, Ayrshire
N/A
MCLEOD, Mary F 22 1849 Auchtermuchty, Fife

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Oct 2013 11:11

1861 census

Person: DILL, Elizabeth Address: The Manse, Colmonell

DILL, William Head Married M 36 1825 Minister Of The Parish
Newtonstewart, Wigtownshire
N/A
DILL, Margaret Wife Married F 30 1831
Midlothian
N/A
DILL, Margaret S Daughter F 4 1857
Colmonell, Ayrshire
N/A
DILL, Elizabeth Daughter F 2 1859
Colmonell, Ayrshire
N/A
DILL, Jane Daughter F 0 (7 MO) 1861
Colmonell, Ayrshire
N/A
BROWN, Susan Servant Unmarried F 27 1834 Domestic Servant
Girvan, Ayrshire
N/A
BROWN, Jane Servant Unmarried F 15 1846 Domestic Servant
Girvan, Ayrshire
N/A
MCCRACKEN, Mary Servant Unmarried F 16 1845 Domestic Servant
Portpatrick, Wigtownshire

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Oct 2013 11:16

Your post is not very clear......... who was your grandfather?

And who are you actually trying to trace?

patchem

patchem Report 17 Oct 2013 11:55

William Gardner, 1890, Catford, is in 5 people's trees on here.
Have you tried to contact all of them?
I appreciate that the matter is sensitive, but I am unsure as to who you are trying to find.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 17 Oct 2013 17:29

Certainly a few Gardner siblings to search trees for!

1881

Name: Peter A. Gardner
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Mersipheris T.B. Gardner
Mother: Francis Gardner
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 24 Manor Rd
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Commercial Clerk Bank

Registration District: Greenwich
Sub-registration District: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 64
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 714
Folio: 53
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Mersipheris T.B. Gardner 52
Francis Gardner 44
Francis E. Gardner 23
Henry Gardner 21
Ada Gardner 20
Margaret M. Gardner 19
Peter A. Gardner 17
Jessie T. B. Gardner 15
Agnes A. Gardner 12
Onersepheris Gardner 11
Alexander O. Gardner 8
Violet M. Gardner 5
Kate Mahoney 20

1871

Name: N J B Gardner
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Francis Gardner
Gender: Male
Where born: Edinburgh, middlothian
Registration number: 644/7
Registration District: Milton
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 3 West Princes St
Occupation: L??hight & W?? Or Boys
ED: 100
Household Schedule Number: 16
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1871_136
Household Members:
Name Age
N J B Gardner 42
Francis Gardner 34 b. Edinburgh
Francis E Gardner 13
F??Y Gardner 11
Ada Gardner 10
Margaret M Gardner 9
Peter A Gardner 7
Jessie T B Gardner 5
Annie E Gardner 4
Agnes A Gardner 2
Union Thomas Gardner 21
Catherine M Henry 48
Agnes Mcalpine 26
Catherine Patrick 16

(children born Glasgow)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Oct 2013 10:03

Not urgent, obviously

Angela

Angela Report 29 Aug 2014 06:04

Have done the basic research. If anyone has any info or photos on Peter Anderson Gardnerb1864c and his wife Katherine Parker Dill b.1863c, WIlliam Hall Gardner b1890 and sister Katherine Euphemia Gardner b1892 then you are welcome to reply. They are all related to Sir Charles Bruce Gardner and someone MUST have a photo at least, Thanks Carol Gardner

Angela

Angela Report 29 Aug 2014 06:07

Any answers as per the directions of the company. Carol (Gardner by rights)

patchem

patchem Report 29 Aug 2014 07:01

Carol,

Have you attempted to contact anyone who has these people in their trees on here?

Have you looked for living descendants of the people you mention, and believe you have found any?

You have to go out and search for them, not expect them to come to you as very few people read these boards.

I do not see why anyone must have a photo, sorry, but lots of people are not interested in keeping photos, labelling them correctly, or even having them taken in the first place. Many people just get rid of everything once a person has died, unfortunately.