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The more you press the more you find out. BDM suggests that Margaret Ann Duckworth m John Greenhalgh Sep 1899. Still cant find Harolds birth date in Ovt 1887 either as Duckworth or Greenhalgh. Chrisa you might have another search for me and see if a John Greenhalgh married to a Margaret Duckworth turns up in the 1901 census. with as son either H Duckworth or H Greenhalgh. Thanks Wayne

mmmmmmmmm it turns out that Harold was born out of wedlock. His name was Harold Duckworth using his mothers name which was Margaret Duckworth. She ended up marrying a Greenhalgh and took on his new fathers surname. So a serch under Duckworth from little lever may yeild som results. Wayne

Wayne, Harold from Little Lever has 1 brother called Alfred in 1901. He must be one of these births: Births Jun 1897 Greenhalgh Harold Bolton 8c 364 Greenhalgh Harold Braithwaite Bolton 8c 376 Births Sep 1897 Greenhalgh Harold Bolton 8c 403 Births Mar 1898 Greenhalgh Harold Bolton 8c 528 but these don't fit in with the birthdate you gave. You can access the 1901 census here http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ but it’s pay per view. Your best option is to download the Census Decoder because it will group family members together. Go to www.censusdecoder.com and download the 1901FULLSETUP.EXE Once you’ve found a relative you can find the rest of the household by adding the civil parish into the Place Keywords field and searching with just the surname. Click the process Search button for each page. Go to show results and sort by page id. Families on the same page are sorted by colour. Crista

Hi All Have searched BDM site and it appears that all 3 brothers births were registered in The Bolton District. Freda thinks that they all came from "Little Leaver" which is in the Bolton District. Freda knows Harolds Birth date as he is her grandfather. And his youngest daughter is still alive. Harold re married and died in Scotland and so all his records were lost over there. Thanks for all your work so far. Wayne and Freda in OZ

Wayne, Using that birthdate you gave, I've listed the possible Harold's and their families. How did you get the birthdate? Births Dec 1897 Greenhalgh Harold Rochdale 8e 43 Greenhalgh Harold Salford 8d 26 Crista

Thanks for that Crista Wayne Do you have the marriage certificate for Harold and Violet? If not try searching on 1837 online (I've looked on Freebmd, Yorkshire bmd and Lancashire bmd with no result). The marriage cert should give you the name of Harolds father and make them easier to find on the 1901 census. Of course if Clifford and John were younger than Harold they may not appear on the 1901 census. Hope this helps Jeanette

Thanks for trying. But that family does not look right either. Regards Wayne PS Freda is sure that Clifford and John were younger than Harold.

Jeanette, Here's that family: Forenames Lastname Age Where Born Census Place Census County Occupation Elizabeth GREENHALGH 35 Lancs Manchester Pendlebury Lancaster Jacob GREENHALGH 33 Lancs Kearsley Pendlebury Lancaster Coal Hewer Ruth GREENHALGH 8 Lancs Kearsley Pendlebury Lancaster William GREENHALGH 6 Lancs Pendlebury Pendlebury Lancaster Harold GREENHALGH 3 Lancs Pendlebury Pendlebury Lancaster Wilfred GREENHALGH 1 Lancs Pendlebury Pendlebury Lancaster Crista

Wayne There is a Harold Greenhalgh aged 3 born and living in Pendlebury, Lancaster (Pendlebury is in the Salford registration district). Perhaps if Crista has the census decoder she could look to see who else is in the household for you Jeanette

Im in the 1901 census on Ancestry Plus I put in Enos Heywood and it finds nothing. So I guess its not complete. Wayne

Thanks Crista But we dont think it is the right family. although Harold age is right but John was younger than Harold. And we think there were only 3 sons in the family. However I guess this far back other could turn up. Wayne

Wayne, On FreeBMD there are two Harolds that could be yours. One in Rochdale and the other in Salford. There's a Clifford born in Rochdale in 1903 so that doesn't help me find them in 1901. If you have his birth or marriage cert that will give you his father. There's this family that could be the right one: Forenames Lastname Age Where Born Census Place Census County Occupation Richard GREENHALGH 56 Lanc Rochdale Rochdale Lancaster Flannel Finisher Mary GREENHALGH 41 Devon Devon Port Rochdale Lancaster John GREENHALGH 23 Lanc Rochdale Rochdale Lancaster Carter Mary GREENHALGH 20 Lanc Rochdale Rochdale Lancaster James GREENHALGH 17 India Rochdale Lancaster Cotton Mule Ringer Albert GREENHALGH 14 India Rochdale Lancaster Flannelette Raiser Clara GREENHALGH 12 Lanc Wardle Rochdale Lancaster Ring Piecer Cotton Beatrice GREENHALGH 8 Lanc Wardle Rochdale Lancaster Arthur GREENHALGH 6 Lanc Norden Rochdale Lancaster Maud GREENHALGH 4 Lanc Norden Rochdale Lancaster Harold GREENHALGH 3 Lanc Rochdale Rochdale Lancaster Phillis GREENHALGH 0.166 Lanc Rochdale Rochdale Lancaster Herbert GREENHALGH 0.25 Lanc Rochdale Rochdale Lancaster Crista

Georgina Heywood nee Power had a sister Lucy Power Wayne

We dont know but Freda thinks he came from Cheshire. He had 2 brothers Clifford and John. W

Crista Your beating me to it every time! lol Jeanette

Wayne, Was Harold born in Rochdale or Salford? Crista

Wow Im very impressed. And Thank you. Wayne

Here they are in 1881: Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Enos HEYWOOD Head M Male 40 Denby Dale, York, England Bookkeeper Sarah HEYWOOD Wife M Female 34 Bingley, York, England Weaver (Worst) Mary Ann HEYWOOD Daur U Female 11 Baildon, York, England Spinner Jame Henry HEYWOOD Son U Male 9 Baildon, York, England Scholar Sarah HEYWOOD Daur U Female 6 Baildon, York, England Scholar Jane HEYWOOD Daur U Female 4 Baildon, York, England Florence HEYWOOD Daur U Female 1 m Shipley, York, England Crista

Wayne, In 1901: Forenames Lastname Age Where Born Census Place Census County Occupation Enos HEYWOOD 58 Yorks Denby Dale Shipley Yorkshire Book Keeper Sarah HEYWOOD 52 Yorks Bingley Shipley Yorkshire Georgina HEYWOOD 30 Yorks Barnsley Shipley Yorkshire James HEYWOOD 29 Yorks Baildon Shipley Yorkshire Engine Fitter Sarah HEYWOOD 26 Yorks Baildon Shipley Yorkshire Worsted Spinner Jane HEYWOOD 24 Yorks Baildon Shipley Yorkshire Worsted Spinner Florence HEYWOOD 20 Yorks Shipley Shipley Yorkshire Worsted Spinner Laura HEYWOOD 17 Yorks Shipley Shipley Yorkshire Cleaning Cloth Machinist Rosa HEYWOOD 14 Yorks Shipley Shipley Yorkshire Nurse Domestic Ivy HEYWOOD 6 Yorks Shipley Shipley Yorkshire Violet HEYWOOD 2 Yorks Shipley Shipley Yorkshire Looks like they were with James' parents. In 1891, the family's the same and living at 4 Wainmans St, Shipley. Crista

Oh and I should add that Harold had 2 brothers Clifford and John