General Chat

Will there ever be a big enough apology for them? Granted Clarkson comments were awful, but as for everyone else even if they should apologize will it be enough?

So now all apologies have to go to both parties individually ( even if you are a couple)and you must atone for everything that has gone wrong in the world.

( OK, over the top but then so was that awful article)

:-D :-D

Isn’t that what sisters are for ;-)

Names ( only girl)

That's so true, Names.
Just thinking about my childhood - I'm the youngest of 4 - the others are 5, 6 and 7 years older..
Without knowing it, my brothers taught me the basics of physics.
They'd build a go-cart. I was always the first to have a go - always down a steep slope. I thought I was lucky!
No. I realised, as I got older, that they were checking the brakes.
Lightest first, then my sister, and if the brakes worked, and the go-cart stopped, we never got another go on it.

I could say they were rising my life!!!

This is really just a story of the dynamics of inheritance in a family business coupled with devastating loss in childhood.

Also of where in the line of children you are found.

The same story could be told by many families either in part or whole.

Names (3rd child of 4)

Is H in hospital or has he been in an accident, Island?

Sorry Island, Charles not flying out to where?

:-S

Charles not flying out to see Harry does not look good either! Some father eh? Especially as Harry has had vile comments directed at him re paternity from the media and public since he was no more than a child.

If the 'king' was my father I'd disown him and the rest of his awful family.

I am heartily sick of the pair of them and Harry’s latest attempt to goad William and Kate into action by mentioning Charlotte and Louis is, to my mind, despicable.

I watched the film and thought that H has been trying to goad his brother all along.

H is lucky that he was only grabbed by the shirt collar and thrown to the ground as many other siblings would have taken a good swing and really knocked him flying.

All power to W for ignoring the constant goading and standing firm. I really admire the fact that William, Kate (and Charles) have retained their equilibrium and refused ‘to bite’.

I wonder what little gems we’ll hear from Netflix, H and M next. It’s as if there is an attempt to bring down the monarchy - beware, we could end up with President Boris Trump!

Those two lines are very apt.

I don’t think there is anything that the family could say that would actually resolve the problem. Keeping quiet and letting the child scream it out is often the best option.

I agree! :-D

I came across a poem by Gwen Harwood yesterday, containing two verses which I think covers the book nicely, even though the poem was published in 1996.

These verses are from the poem 'The All-Purpose Festival Poem'

'Or perhaps it's the feathered creature
who slept when the night was done-
Unlucky the owl, poor witless fowl
to be shot with my father's gun

But fiction glitters on fiction
and truth was a clerical grey.
I really was not a remarkable shot
and the real bird got away'

She was in fact admitting that her earlier poem 'Barn Owl' in which she describes wounding, then having to kill, a barn owl was based on fiction, not fact.

The wording of the opening two lines in second verse above is very apt.

It beggars belief that so many people are taking everything he wrote as fact even when it's been proven incorrect.

Silence is golden!

Otherwise, it will like a soap opera, an episode of EastEnders and that would be so undignified.
No a dignified silence is the best thing to do.

It may well wind up Harry even more but that's his problem and eventually people will get bored.

He wanted out, he got out because he thought the grass was greener and now the grass isn't so green, I think he wants back.

I also thinks he does need some help with his mental health and writing a 2nd book is not the answer.

LB -
could Harry possibly be more antagonised than he seems to be already?!
But I agree - if he continues attacking them, or makes more accusations, public opinion is likely to turn against him even more than it has done already.

No matter what reply the family might make, in his apparent present state of mind he would find something in it to fit his own point of view.
An official statement would be worded very carefully, and he would see that as a "cold" reaction.
And any private attempt to negotiate with him seems unlikely to stay private, given his tell-all approach.

I do worry about where his state of mind will take him, if not dealt with.

It should be called "Faction", a mixture of truth & fiction!

I agree AG, I think the Palace should continue with a dignified silence. My only fear is that their silence might antagonise Harry more but if it does it might add to his own detriment and turn others against him :-0

I hope the family do continue with a dignified silence.
Any reaction at all would only add fuel to the fire and draw them into a most undignified public squabble, which wouldn't reflect well on either side.
The press would love having something new to seize on, and blow the whole thing up into even more than it is already.


Far better to let Harry continue his one-sided ranting , and hope that either the public and the press get so bored with it that it all fizzles out, or that Harry comes to realise the damage he's doing to himself and stops.

There do seem to be a lot of inaccuracies in the book :-0. Perhaps as Caroline has already said it should be in the fiction section; it's a bit like The Crown loosely based on reality. Shame it doesn't carry a disclaimer as people will think, like The Crown, it is 100% true :-|