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Surely Nameslessone, it's in order of priorities Win(d) Chest........er....


Elizabeth - so true!
Hampshire County Council appears to have 'outsourced' their recruitment, and to ensure 'fairness' are using an Algorithm.
I worked in a department all last year, and, when the job became permanent, they asked me to apply, as they wanted to keep me on. Unfortunately it was 'out of their hands'
My manager checked my CV etc, positive that I would get the job.
I didn't - apparently the algorithm, or child in charge, didn't know what a GCE was, because, it seems, I needed 'A' to C' GCSE (which a GCE is) in subjects, but 'didn't fulfill this part'!.
I contacted the recruitment team and pointed out their error - the application form now states what GCSE grade a GCE covers - but I still didn't get the job.

If a human had been involved, surely they'd question how someone appeared to get to University with just a GCSE grade C in Maths! (I took that when I was in my 30's)

I live near Chidister if you listen to the locals.

Never seen a definition! But if Rollo's definition as a "set of rules" is correct I see increasing problems with their inextricable incorporation into AI governing formulas with no scope for appeal.

Should that be Miss Winch ess ter or Win chest er ...............

thank you Miss Winchester.

Bob - apparently it's mi-zuhn-throwp

Sharron :-D :-D :-D

I used to help children to spell together by saying they had to-get-her = together

Hypno the rapist?

I was quite tooken aback when reading some bumpf about TOM TOM sat navs..

it stated that the Algorithm used was protected under patent.....and woe beware anyone trying to reverse engineer it.....

btw is it Misanthrope? miss an throw pee? Miss an ther ope?

:-D :-D :-D

:-D :-D :-D :-D brilliant

'I got algorithm,I got music, I got Anarchy. Who could ask for anything more?'

Perhaps we are related ;-)

Somebody else's rellie probably started it ;-) ;-)

Well, Sharron, you do surprise me!

One is 1 .

;-) :-D

One of OH's rellies was involved in that playing quite a major part ;-) :-D :-D

Before my education I forgot to mention that I don't care what one is and if I did care, I would look it up.

At the moment, I am looking up something else I didn't know about until this morning, the Anarchy between 1135 and 1153. Much more interesting.

See what they mean there.

I would still tend to write an ubiquitous part .....

but say - a ubiquitous part ....

And I think I'd be wrong as 'a ubiquitous part' still sounds wrong - although I can be a lazy speaker at times.

"Must do better", springs to mind. :-S

Daughter uses algorithms in the Environment Department.

I just looked up what algorithms are - and I've used them - but we called them 'calcs'

However, I came across this, and am confused:

"Whether you are aware of it or not, algorithms are becoming a ubiquitous part of our lives"

...it's the 'a' before the 'u' - but 'an' doesn't sound right :-S :-S :-S

An algorithm is nothing much more that a set of rules which describe a process leading to a predictable outcome. They are much used and key to modern mathematics as carried out by computers using numerical methods rather than classic equations. Brute force v elegance you might say.

As algorithms may inccorporate statistical terms , which usually have bounds, it follows that the result predicted by an algorithm is highly dependent on the data fed into it. Incorrect data for instance led to the grounding of Boeings Dreamliner.

Most people have little idea of the extent to which their lives are affected by algorithms. If they were I suppose there would be a bit of a fuss. The world of Philip K Dick is already here.

For GCSE and A level algorithms have been in use for some years as a means of fine tuning the grades awarded and hence keeping supply and demand as closely matched to budgets as possible. That is why grades are awarded not a score as with USA/Canada SATS.

Under the UK system there is always a fairly large mismatch between mock A level results and the real exam. There is next to no awareness of how the grades are worked out and the small number of appeals have been easy to deal with.

As there have been no actual exams the algorithm used has been exposed to much unwanted limelight and a wholly predictable political fuss. The resulting chaos will knock on for the next several years unless the algorithms used are made totally transparent.

That would involve removing bonus points for being in the catchment area of one of the posher state schools, smaller class sizes, exotic subjects and so on. In the unlikely event that happens then the screaming and yelling will come from such places as the London Oratory and Tiffins School.

The larger picture is the infinite capacity of Johnson's government for ballsing things up. Ansolutely fabulous not.

btw algorithms can be patented and royalties have to be paid for their use.
So a few pages of calculations can be worth pure gold :-).
Think of it as performing rights for engineers and scientists.

JoyLouise, thank you for your concern (you're the second person to mention my lack of participation in the last few days) but all is well :-)