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Caroline

Caroline Report 26 Feb 2020 22:19

Kense maybe saving on paint to cut costs :-)

Dermot

Dermot Report 26 Feb 2020 20:37

If we have learned anything from Brexit, it is that not every joke is a laughing matter.  :-S

Kense

Kense Report 26 Feb 2020 19:03

Yes you are right Caroline. The aircraft tend not to carry RCAF titles now though.

Denburybob

Denburybob Report 26 Feb 2020 18:55

Don't worry about the army Florence, Scots would still be welcome. Our army has many Irishmen and have always been welcomed.

Caroline

Caroline Report 26 Feb 2020 18:22

https://forces.ca/en/about-us/air

Still says Royal on the Government website...

Barbra

Barbra Report 26 Feb 2020 16:55

NS needs to wind her neck in she has no chance of independence it's pie in the sky never going to happen . Barbara

Kense

Kense Report 26 Feb 2020 16:18

Um actually, Canada dropped the R from RCAF some years ago. It is now the CAF (or FAC for French speakers).

Tawny

Tawny Report 26 Feb 2020 15:28

I live in Scotland, I am under 40 as is Mr Owl and both of us are British and proud. Had Scotland got independence the first time round they would have been out of the EU and have had to reapply as an independent country. That is something that the SNP like to forget.

Caroline

Caroline Report 26 Feb 2020 14:56

Yes Canada has the RCAF but Canada pays for it so quite how that proves Scotland can have their own forces....

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 26 Feb 2020 14:49

In the event of Scottish independence a Scottish army, air force etc would be unlikely. The Queen would still be Queen of Scotland (albeit QE1 not 2 ) as she is of, say, Canada which has the RCAF etc. Some sort of defence treaty would be sorted out. The nukes at Faslane are something the SNP would have to get used to, probably sweetened by a generous rental deal.

Lots of small countries are independant and manage perfectly well - eg Iceland, ROI, Portugal, Malta, Cyprus, Slovenia, Slovakia, the Baltics.

Rubbishing Scottish independance, especially by sasssenachs, simply winds up the nationalists. A far better approach is to promote all of the many things that make the Union the better choice for both parties.

For that to work the UK govt in London must treat Scotland as an equal partner not some sort of colony. Since 1914 that has been true for the most part.
However if Johnson persists in his current policies he may well provoke a split.

The current situation is very much like Ireland in 1916-1922. The chief differences are that this time the issue will be decided by a referendum not the Maxim machine gun and summary executions. I rather doubt that Rangers FC and their fans would fill in for the Ulster Unionists and a red right hand..

Florence61

Florence61 Report 26 Feb 2020 10:18

Just another thought. If Scotland do get independence then it would mean, a scottish Army, Navy and Airforce and therefore no longer a British variety of Services.
If we went to war at any time instead of having the best of British to fight for us, we would have smaller and less effective army etc...
Even worse to think then we could end up fighting each other!!!!

We are better together in every sense of the word.
Scotland as an independent country is not financially viable to support itself.
After the last ref, the oil and gas prices crashed and it was said that if Scotland had one the ref, they would have been bankrupt over night.

Florence in the hebrides

Florence61

Florence61 Report 26 Feb 2020 10:12

Sorry I haven't been back on my thread. Ive had internet problems!!!

I have to agree with Emma :-D

Another referendum will cost a lot more money that could be put to better use .
The potholes up here are really awful and dangerous and our local council are cutting back on the budget to repair roads yet I read yesterday they are gong to hike the council tax by 5%!!

Some of our bins too are only going to be emptied every 5 weeks very soon...So if your recycled bin is full up and you are not mobile to drive to a recycling site, then where exactly are you supposed to put the rubbish?

Florence in the hebrides

Dermot

Dermot Report 22 Feb 2020 19:47

"Are referendums good for democracy?"

(BBC Radio 4 programme not too long ago).

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 22 Feb 2020 19:39

Emma :-D

'Emma'

'Emma' Report 22 Feb 2020 19:32

NS is best ignored not all Scots want independence.

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 22 Feb 2020 12:28

;-)

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 22 Feb 2020 12:10

I just give my tongue free rein at times, Dermot.

Not in my house, it didn't, Rollo.

Dermot

Dermot Report 22 Feb 2020 11:33

Sir John Cheke (16 June 1514 – 13 September 1557) was an English classical scholar who wrote:

‘I am of this opinion that our own tung should be written cleane and pure, unmixt and unmangeled with borowing of other tunges; wherein if we take not heed by tiim, ever borowing and never paying, she shall be fain to keep her house as bankrupt‘.

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 22 Feb 2020 11:20

Young Scots, who wish to pass their Highers, are expected to be able to spell English correctly. It seems that any old thing will do south of the border.

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 22 Feb 2020 08:52

I agree with you Caroline. If they want independence they must pay there own way and not get benefits from us .