General Chat

Read all the posts and really interesting results.

So what someone has said about the Ychromosomes,

If I got my 1st cousin to take a DNA test would his result turn out different to mine.

Gadjo is the name for Non Romany Gypsy Tessa. I have Romany in my family tree

I don't understand my results, I have no English DNA, according to My Heritage, but 98.9% Western European, of which some 14% is Scottish/Irish/Welsh.

I can name 30 of my 32 ggg grandparents, which is 5 generations, and many of them were born in South Westmorland/North Lancashire. The others were mainly born in Northumberland/Durham, with a couple from London. And I have traced some of these lines further back too, all English born that I have found, and no non-English names.

They do say that after 5 generations the accuracy of the results falls away.

And my other 1.1%? Nigerian...........

Thanks for that everyone. One of the surnames on the "Englais" part of my tree is also a place name in Spain. (But I have traced my lot in Herefordshire back to 1600's. Another surname is "Gypsey" but is also non-gypsey (can't remember the Romany name for that). My Welsh lot had connections to Cardiff - but also to Bristol. both areas with rather mixed populations.
There is of course the Spanish/Irish link. My Irish (first) cousins think that is why my sister and I are dark!
However, I have been told by a lovely man from India that I must be part Indian, and a man who used to do Tai Chi at the same group as me reminds me of my dad, both in looks and movement, (so much so that I wondered if we might be related) he was from India too.

Hope to see my bro tomorrow, wil see if he is willing to do a DNA test so that we can get more valid info.

By the way have had a lot of "cousin" connections on the Irish, Welsk and Scottish part of my family. But only one on the English side (that I have been able to establish) We are descended from two sisters (with the "Spanish place" surname).

I have been able to establish a link that was iffy, on the Irish side of the family. My grandfathers sister went to America and changed her first name to that of her sister. I didn't even know that they had gone to the states (around 1882) but thought that she may have married a Mr Murphy, so not easy to find. lol.

When my brother got tested with ancestry I thought it would prove, one way or another, whether some of my matches were true matches.

Then I discovered there was a huge difference in the cms against a 1st cousin once removed. So I am having to rethink some of my matches.

Tess if your dark ancestor is only on your father's Y-chromosome you will not have it. You need a male from your family to show it if that is the case.

Don't forget centuries ago the Romans and their mercenaries were in UK.

If you are female your brother will have the Y-chromosome which gives you your father's line. Females do not have Y-chromosomes.

Even if you were both male, as DNA is random, you can have different relative connections.

A first cousin is helpful as they will help identify your maternal or paternal side.

Tess,
Following on from Sylvia, look up the Barbary Slave trade!

My sister and I have both had our DNA tested, we are Northern European, Celtic and have a smattering of Iberian - my sister has just over 3%, I have just over 9% - and am darker than her.
The Celtic side is Cornish - I've traced my dad's side to before 13th century - but this side also had Northern European - the Normans were 'North' men.
Mum's side were from East Anglia - well, as far back as the 17th Century, and one grandad was Hampshire - however, his mother (my great gran) was from an old New Forest family - and they were originally Romany - so that could be the Iberian!

Your brothers DNA will differ from yours,,,,,the only two people who carry the same near match DNA are identical twins,so any other siblings DNA could throw up another result that may complicate or be useful,but its worth trying rather than wondering.

Its thought that one gets equal share of DNA from each parent but they don't.,same as blood type its not a half share from each..

Tess ................

don't forget that the Spanish Armada sailed all the way round the British Isles in attempt to escape. Ships were shipwrecked in Scotland, Wales, part os England, and I think Ireland.

Any survivors for those shipwrecks are known to have married (or not) local girls, and it could be ................. I say only could be ........ that you haven't yet got far enough to get to one of those intermarriages.

I did DNA via Ancestry. It gave me an (estimated) genetic make-up, which has since been slightly adjusted. However, as far as i know all my siblings are full sibs. therefore any family links I have been given e.g. 2nd-3rd cousins or 4th-6th cousins, would be the same for all of us.

However many people who have done their DNA on Ancestry do not have a tree or do not have an "open" tree.
Most of the others that do have a tree I have been unable to find a shared surname. Perhaps because some trees are limited or mistakes have been made.

don't know if this helps.

By the way, my brother reckons that a mistake has been made on my estimated DNA make-up. We both expected to find out where our "dark" gene came from, but according to Ancestry I am Irish, Scottish, Welsh and English,. only. Which came as a bit of a surprise.

Naive question maybe but would my brothers give me more information to add to mine and get more connections.