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I'VE DONE IT!!! JEMIMA NICHOLAS DNA

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JemimaFawr

JemimaFawr Report 4 Jan 2021 19:15

Thank You Maggie, Joy, Belle, and Ann for your good wishes and interesting posts:-) <3


THIS IS WHAT MY ISSUE WAS ......

It is well documented and proven that the Nicholas Family from TRESARE / TRESAER FARM, near Mathry in Pembrokeshire, were the family of Jemima.
The first Nicholas to live at Tresare was Isaac, Jemima's brother, when he married into the John Family who had the lease to the farm.

The Tresare Nicholas's were predominantly Seamen, many of them quite famous Sea Captains, one of whom wrote memoirs which assert that Jemima was his great Aunt. This Sea Captain was Captain Dan or Daniel who was also a brother of the Captain James I posted about earlier. There is a lot on line about Captain Daniel.

My problem was my 2x Great Grandfather William. WAS HE ALSO A TRESARE NICHOLAS? a brother to Captains James and Dan? or just another William Nicholas from the area?

I sent for his marriage certificate to my 2x Great Grandmother (of whom I was 100% sure) It said William (a Merchant Seaman) was the son of Evan Nicholas a farmer from that area.
I could not find any other farmer Evan or farm with a son William that fitted the bill having searched all Census', and other official records along with sending for his birth certificate. So I was 99.9% sure of my facts, but always that little niggle!

It didn't help that Tresare Farm's William Nicholas' memorial stone asserts that he drowned in September 1871. This would have been just a couple of weeks after marrying my 2xGreat Grandmother, if indeed he was the same man. :-0

Descendants of the other brothers that I have had contact with did not know that William had married let alone that his widow had had a son!

So, having a high DNA match to a descendant of Captain James, who's lineage is without dispute, has put that slight niggle to rest for good!!!!




Ann, I do hope you manage to find your link to Lady Godiva:-D
How exciting is THAT! :-D :-D

Annx

Annx Report 4 Jan 2021 12:08

Yes DNA matching is more reliable than what gets put on some birth certs! How exciting to have what you couldn't prove before confirmed though. I have had hunches proved with DNA matches before but still have a tantalising very interesting possible link I can't prove yet to Lady Godiva! :-D

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 4 Jan 2021 11:37

Well done, Jem.... it's always great when DNA confirms what you thought but couldn't quite prove :-D

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 4 Jan 2021 11:19

Fab for you, Jem. <3

Can't go wrong with DNA. I recall a cousin mentioning a couple of years ago how DNA matching had made life so much easier for them (forensic scientists) and how impossible it became for criminals to deny wrongdoing when the DNA evidence was irrefutable.

Since then my own DNA has proved to be the link between a lady and her great-grandfather, unknown to her until she did a test. Pinned down fairly and squarely and, boy, was she delighted .... a bit like you Jem, but not so far back.

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 4 Jan 2021 10:00

Well done! :-D :-D

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 3 Jan 2021 17:10

:-0 thinks..................
with 2% african dna, what were my lott doing in Nigeria?

JemimaFawr

JemimaFawr Report 3 Jan 2021 17:08

Thanks Bob :-)

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 3 Jan 2021 17:06

Well done Jem...confirmed links to the past are always an Asset!!

JemimaFawr

JemimaFawr Report 3 Jan 2021 17:02

Thank You Linda
When DNA confirms your hard work it's amazing :-)

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 3 Jan 2021 16:57

That is great news Jem.
I have lots of DNA matches which don’t really help, but I got one brilliant one which proved who my grandmother’s father was and let me go back generations with confidence

JemimaFawr

JemimaFawr Report 3 Jan 2021 16:20

Thanks LG <3

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 3 Jan 2021 16:19

Brilliant news Jem <3

JemimaFawr

JemimaFawr Report 3 Jan 2021 16:13

NOW I AM EVEN MORE THRILLED.....

My latest DNA match is much closer to home than the earlier match!
It is to the 1st Cousin of my Australian Cousin Denise who bought Jemima Nicholas's hat!!
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1379050

Denise and family are descendants of Captain James Nicholas who emigrated to Australia.
I am a descendant of James' brother William Nicholas also a Seaman.
2x G.Grandfather William drowned in 1871, aged just 26, a couple of weeks after marrying my 2x G. Grandmother. Not a lot is known about William for that reason, while a many of his brothers, including Captain James, are well documented!!!!

James & William Nicholas were Great Nephews of the original Jemima Fawr - The Welsh Heroine Jemima Nicholas.

(NOW I CAN LOOK AT PHOTOS OF ME WEARING JEMIMA's HAT WITH CONFIDENCE!!!
:-D :-D :-D

'Emma'

'Emma' Report 15 Oct 2019 18:25

So rude Ann ;-) :-D

JemimaFawr

JemimaFawr Report 14 Oct 2019 22:31

:-P :-P :-P@ ANN ;-) :-D :-D :-D

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 14 Oct 2019 22:29

Gawd help us...we will never here the last of this now :-D :-D :-D :-D ;-) ;-)

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 14 Oct 2019 21:33

:-D :-D :-D :-D

JemimaFawr

JemimaFawr Report 14 Oct 2019 20:24

THIS IS A BRILLIANT CLIP!

It's by the late great RYAN DAVIES. A brilliant entertainer. Comedy genius and beautiful singer too.

It's HIS VERSION of the JEMIMA NICHOLAS STORY

"NAPOLEON v MAM!" ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRtsgOYJoD4


JemimaFawr

JemimaFawr Report 3 Oct 2019 20:05

This is the story of Jemima Fawr the first ;-)

https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofWales/The-Last-Invasion-of-Britain/

A few discrepancies though.... Jemima wasn't the wife of a cobbler. SHE WAS THE COBBLER. Jemima never married.

Also historians now believe it is more likely she was born around 1755 and not 1750 as they have found her Baptism Record in Haverfordwest Register Office.

JemimaFawr

JemimaFawr Report 2 Oct 2019 10:01

Thank You so much Liz <3
I was so sorry to hear about your fall. I hope that you are not too sore now :-)