General Chat

Ok Babsy boo ;-)

Sinking ship, rats leave

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/27/brexit-civil-servant-in-charge-of-no-deal-planning-quits

Boris Gump :-D :-D

I HAVE never been known as Babs ? only when I worked Aintree for two weeks Training .to be Bakery Manager .Betty Boo to you ;-) Gorden Brown took over from T Blair . :-)

Had a name change Babs ? :-S

It was Boris in 2007 that went off on one re George Brown taking over from Blair, think that's him down as a big hypocrite ;-)



EDIT - Looks like the New Statesman remembers as well

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/06/without-mandate-british-people-how-boris-johnson-described-gordon-brown-2007

Lord Kerslake, long time head of the Civil Service, said yesterday that nodeal brexit was delusional and dangerous regardless of who sought to deliver on it. Meanwhile the 0.06% of the country who are card carrying Tories are happy to see the UK disintegrate so long as they get their brexit. Utter madness.

But also we don't need Hunt for PM either.he ruined the NHS and now the bloody country if he gets the job.

On this, I agree entirely with Max and you, Rollo. (Even though you didn't say you agreed with him.)

Well Max Hastings should know if anybody does

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain

For the most part, if one of us had such a rickety (my description) life as Boris, we'd be the 'talk of the place' but it would not have any impact on national and international transactions so it would not matter a jot.

The crux is that a PM needs a settled family life in order to concentrate on home and foreign affairs rather than tangled love affairs. Boris and his crew know that, hence the firefighting exercise in today's newspapers.

He has learned that to win he has needed to tone down his appearance and has tidied up his act recently but if previous performances in journalism and government are anything to judge by, we are in for a rocky road if he is elected.

He'll go all out to keep the rich happy because he'll need a job when it's all over - sounds familiar, doesn't it?

Someone claimed that Boris is a snollygoster. True or false?

To much is being said about his private life press are laying into him & the media .nothing new then :-\

Normal people are well aware that a nodeal brexit would be a chaotic disaster. Current polling shows a steady lead of 8% for remain on the basis of May's deal and far more no deal. Crucially any attempt to force nodeal through the Commons would result in a General Election and a hung parliament with Lab running a minority govt.

Once Bojo has the keys to no 10 expect F1 quality u turns to the sound of smashing crockery. Do not be surprised if the WAB rises from the dead.

All the business experts say a no deal would be a disaster. It doesn't take a lot of intelligence to work out that for many it WILL be a disaster, of course some will benefit ( some one always does, in spite of or because of) . But I doubt it will be the people who most need it.

Rollo,
How do ypou know that a NO DEAL would be distastrous for UK.

#OR DO YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT THE NORMAL MORTAL DOESN'T

The EU will only react to propositions from the UK Govt, nobody else. Thus S50 cancel, request-for-extension etc would have to come from the PM . There is no sign so far that Bojo would request a delay and so the UK is heading for a no deal brexit which would create chaos.

Even if Bojo asked for a delay he would need v good reason. The only reasons sufficiently good are to hold a PeoplesVote or a GE. There is not, right now, sufficient support in the House for a 2nd referendum ( gap is about 20 votes ). Bojo says he is ok with a no deal brexit.

Thus on the face of it ( no U-turns from Boris ) the only way brexit can be stopped is if enough Tories were prepared to support a VONC. It is unlikely that they would do so in July but do have the numbers in September. There are solid signs that 12-20 would do so (negating Labour rebels such as Kate Hoey and C Flint) forcing a GE.

The Brexiter party won't go away. On current trends an autumn GE will see both of the major parties badly mauled with the LibDems and SNP holding the balance of power. The SNP strongly dislikes Corbyn as do the LibDems but not as much. Corbyn is rapidly losing the support of his own party and faces serious trouble in the autumn conf.

Thus we are heading towards a Labour minority administration propped up by the wearers of sandals and kilts. The Libs (who could easily hold > 100 seats ) are unlikely to enter a formal coalition but will provide conf and support. Their shopping list will be a PeoplesVote with Lab supporting Remain and some sort of PR. The SNP will want control of everything bar defence and foreign affairs.

The DUP will bitterly regret not backing up T May when they had the chance to do so. As to Corbyn's Leninist ideas he is likely to get the popular renat of the railways ( British Rail, the physical network of track and stations is a 100% UK Govt owned entity anyway ) but not much else and will go in a huff even if not pushed.

At least 20 Tory MPs prefer this scenario to chaos under Bojo. They see themselves running a successful centre right party ( under Hunt? ) in the EU model with the ERG and Bojo banished to a dark place.

hey ho

Bob, a GE would see us between a rock and a hard place at the moment.

yeah but in the event of a GE, I dread to think who might get in....

certainly don't want the parasite....

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