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Hi Margaret,

I looked at the image also and wondered why they had given it as an alternate name as it is the family below who are Chappells, just something else to confuse us.

Christine

Linda. Thanks for that info. I didnt know names were sometimes added at baptism. No wonder we cant be sure we have the right ones.

Christine.
I dont know why Ancestry has added Chappell as an alternative name because the image clearly states he is Parsons.
Ancestry is also adding names for married daughters and giving the name of the head but that isnt always the case if mother has remarried.

I thought the one showing also as Chappell must be the one, dificult isn't it with so many Charles Parsons.

Sorry can't help any further.

Christine

Margaret - Just for future ref. I have just been informed that sometimes names were added at the baptism, maybe the godparents names, therefore not necessarily on the birth cert.

Hi Christine,
1891 - 7 Harling Street, Camberwell.
Charles W. Parsons - Head - M - 33 - Carman
Mary - Wife - M - 33
Charles - Son - 8
Amy - Daughter - 5
George - Son - 3
Mary - Daughter - 1

1901 - 37 Boyson Road, Newington

Charles Parsons - Head - M - 44 - Carman
Mary Ann - Wife - M - 44
Charles H - Son - S - 18 - Tin Worker (my granddad)
George R - Son - S - 13
Mary Ann - Daughter - S - 11

Christine
1891 census
look for Charles W Parsons born 1858 in N. occ carman
Mary 1858 Waturm.
various children

living Camberwell

Names changed to Chappell but this is an error if you check the image because it has a Chappell family underneath and the names are mixed up

1901 census.
Charles Parsons 1857 Walworth Surrey.occ carman
Mary Ann 1857 Woburn Bedfordshire
Charles H 1883 Walworth.
George R 1888 Camberwell
Mary Alice 1880 Camberwell

living Newington London

Hi Linda,

Can you post the census details you have for 1891 and 1901 please?

Christine

But your man is Charles William Parsons on his marriage cert.

No point buying a birth cert without William as middle name

I have pondered over all the things you good people have found and I'm still scepticle as to whether or not Charlotte is the mother of my man Charles.

I have sent for birth certs. for children of Charlotte and I think she must have been unmarried and made up names.

I have the following info. from the certs.:
Charles born 02.03.1855 No father. Ann Parsons mother.
Charles Kernick born 16.03.1856 No father. Charlotte Parsons formerly Kernick mother.
Charlotte born 20.11.1860 No father. Charlotte Parsons mother.

Any ideas please? Until I find Charles William Parsons born 1856 I can't trace back any further.

What was his occupation in 1891 and also his siblings names?

Just seen the previous post and it does look possible, well done Margaret.

Christine

1881 census.
Charlotte Parsons head widower 1826 Southwark
Charley son1856 Southwark.occ labourer
Charlotte dau 1862 Southwark.

address 185 Trafalgar St Newington London

Sorry Linda, he is on the 1861 & 1871 census with mother Charlotte. Birth certs. for who I think is him and his siblings do not have a fathers name on them but the mother has put herself as Charlotte Parsons. I suspect she is not married as all children were born in the workhouse and maybe the father given on his marriage cert. is also made up, I really don't know, it's such a mess!!!

I don't know his mothers name, his father is John Parsons, I got that from his marriage cert.

I don't think this is him because 1881 was the year he married and this was in Camberwell.

Hi Linda,

Is this him?

1881 England Census
about Charles Parsons
Name: Charles Parsons
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: London, London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 20 Shepley St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Bricklayer

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Market Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Crayton 25
Charles Forbes 28
John Gavan 40
John Hogan 40
John Holsted 23
Michael Lavan 28
Patrick Lavan 18
Mary Logan 80
Mary Mc Loughlin 74
Fredk. Murphy 23
Charles Parsons 23
Patrick Quinn 37
John Regan 28
Patrick Regan 24
James Taplin 23
Belinda Woolley 54
James Woolley 26


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3997; Folio: 12; Page: 5

Christine

Don't think that one is mine Carol.

Minnie, he married Mary Ann Perkins 04.07.1881 , Emmmanuel Church, Camberwell.
1891 Entry is 7 Harling St., Camberwell.
Charles W Parsons, Mary(wife), children Charles, Amy, George & Mary

where and when did he marry Mary ann?

which one is your 1891?

This is the only one I could find 1st one on 1st page of 1881 census ?
Charles Parsons
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: London, London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Camberwell
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 2 Grenard Road
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Shoemaker

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Parsons 18
Alice Parsons 2
Charles Parsons 27
Charlie Parsons
Emily Parsons 5
Mary Ann Parsons 26