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Hi All,well spent 3hrs in library found nothing so thinking you might be right about them marrying in ireland or scotland, tried to find bridgets birth nothing or margarets birth or death omg wat a family thanks again to you all
Marie
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mellie your a godsend, the family was landed gentry if the family stories are true( maybe they gave her money to leave) its such a long story i should write a book really lol, some say she went to ireland others say lpool but edward was born in ireland so maybe they met and married there, i have been on scotlands people but without a maiden name for her i cant get anywere, and if Bridget wasnt Edwards there is a long time scale to search for wedding cert for them omg wat have i started lol i am going the lpool central library tomorrow so fingers crossed and thanks to clair and whisky soda mwah to you all xxxx
Marie
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scotland - ireland - liverpool

in them days anythings pos but an unwed mother? where would she get the money from? it wasn't cheap????

more questions????

It would appear that the only hope is Martha's birth cert.
Marie says that Margaret's mum was banished from the house for being pregnant & unmarried so could she have married in Ireland?

out of all of them this is the only one that fits a death unless she remarried?

DICKSON Martha 67 Keighley.9a 150 1 1887

these are all the deaths of martha dickson

Deaths 1866-1920 : martha dickson Records 1 - 17 of 17



Name Age at deaths District Page Quarter Year View Image Add Comment View Comment
DICKSON Martha 59 West Derby.8b 292 2 1867
DICKSON Martha 0 Birkenhead.8a 317 3 1870
DICKSON Martha 89 Wem.6a 547 4 1870
DICKSON Martha 38 Mile End Old Town.1c 330 2 1872
DICKSON Martha 60 Bury.8c 355 4 1874
DICKSON Martha 65 Sculcoates.9d 116 1 1884
DICKSON Martha 67 Keighley.9a 150 1 1887
DICKSON Martha 52 West Derby.8b 259 1 1890
DICKSON Martha 0 Tynemouth.10b 195 1 1892
DICKSON Martha 0 Tynemouth.10b 155 1 1893
DICKSON Martha 0 West Derby.8b 332 1 1896
DICKSON Martha 41 Hackney.1b 319 4 1897
DICKSON Martha 80 Stockport.8a 159 1 1914
DICKSON Martha 74 Sunderland.10a 673 2 1919
DICKSON Martha Elizabeth 70 Tunbridge.2a 314 3 1875
DICKSON Martha Hart 2 Prescot.8b 569 4 1882
DICKSON Martha S 69 Rochford.4a 709 1 1912

afternoon all

whisky soda if i read it properly i think her husband was called edward

any ideas?

i thought she might of stayed up in scotland as she was born there

Stornoway Scotland

This is the comlete list ( with soundex)

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Martha Deacon abt 1836 Glasgow, Port Lodger Liff and Benvie Angus
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Martha Deacon W W abt 1823 British Subject, Cape of Gard Daughter Barony Lanarkshire
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Martha Deakin Ralph abt 1810 England Wife Barony Lanarkshire
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Martha Deakin Ralph,
Martha abt 1836 England Daughter Barony Lanarkshire
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Martha Dickson William abt 1805 England Wife Holywood Dumfriesshire
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Martha Dickson William,
Martha abt 1841 Dumfries Daughter Holywood Dumfriesshire
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Martha Dickson John,
Elizabeth abt 1844 Holywood, Dumfries Daughter Holywood Dumfriesshire
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Martha Dickson David,
Mary abt 1846 Tranent, Haddington Daughter Tranent East Lothian
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Martha Dickson John,
Ann abt 1849 Glasgow, Lanark Daughter Calton Lanarkshire
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Martha Dickson Alexander abt 1826 Douglas, Lanarkshire Wife Douglas Lanarkshire
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Martha Dickson James,
Lettis abt 1839 Leith, Midlothian Daughter Leith South Midlothian
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Martha Dickson Alex abt 1820 Dalry, Ayrshire Wife Greenock East Renfrewshire
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Martha Dison James abt 1834 Down, Ireland Daughter Liff and Benvie Angus
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Name: Martha Dixon
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: P Kirk, Haddn
Parish Number: 717
Civil Parish: Prestonkirk
Town: East Linton
County: East Lothian
Address: Bridge End
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 42
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1851_193
Household Members: Name Age
Martha Dixon 16
Thos Robertson 15
Alexr Walker 36
Janet Walker 70
William Walker 38

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Martha Dixon abt 1835 P Kirk, Haddn Servant Prestonkirk East Lothian
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Martha Dixon Isabella abt 1831 Tranent, Haddingtonshire Daughter Tranent East Lothian
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Martha Dixon Robert abt 1815 Kirkcudbright Wife Tongland Kirkcudbrightshire
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Martha Dixon Margret abt 1830 Renfrewshire Daughter Calton Lanarkshire
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Martha Dixon abt 1818 South Leith, Edir Prisoner Edinburgh St Andrew Midlothian
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Martha Dixon abt 1818 Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire Head Edinburgh St Cuthberts Midlothian
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Martha Dougan John abt 1782 Glenluce, Wigtown Wife Kirkcowan Wigtownshire
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Martha Duckson James abt 1822 Stoup, Dfs Wife Mouswald Dumfriesshire

Ann

This is the only one around the right age

Martha Dickson
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's Name: Alex
Gender: Female
Where born: Dalry, Ayrshire
Parish Number: 564
Civil Parish: Greenock East
County: Renfrewshire
Address: High St Cartsdyke
Occupation: Mader House Mails Maker Wife
ED: 18
Page: 7 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 23
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1851_118
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Dickson 2
Alex Dickson 33
Alexander Dickson 4
John Dickson 16
Martha Dickson 31
Elizabeth Robertson 22




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Source Citation: Parish: Greenock East; ED: 18; Line: 9; Year: 1851.

There is one b1826 all th others are 1840 ish born, and one 1805

Ann

I wonder if this is Margaret's birth

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Margaret Dickson
Name: Margaret Dickson
Year of Registration: 1857
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Liverpool (1837-1934)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 238 (click to see others on page)

martha dickson c1821

I have lost the plot here, whio do you need looking up on the Scottish 1851 and I will do it

Ann

ok i've had a brainwave (don't say a word claire)

if she was born in scotland and noone can find her untill 1861 is is posible (i've looked and looked and can't find a marriage)

that she married in scotland before going to liverpool

if this was the case you need someone to do a scottish look up on the 1851 census to see if she is there


it might explain why we can't find her

Thats the thing clair, she was supposedly banished from home as she was pregnant and not married she wouldnt give the baby up for adoption so she left home wat happened then we dont know until the 1861 census this is Martha Dickson,s story, and i cannot find a birth in the library for Margaret or Bridget, i have margarets marriage cert to Micheal Shannon but no mothers name is on it grrrr such a long winding tale Clair lol ty for your help xxxx

Do you have Margaret's birth cert? This would show her mother's maiden name.
The age gap between Bridget & Margaret is too big so this could have been a second marriage

No relation Marie, sorry

OMG Clair yes is that any relation to you ?

I have found her on the 1861 census her name is martha she was born abt 1821 in stornoway scotland, her daughter my gr8 gran is margaret dickson who married a man called michael shannon had 3 kids but he must of died after the 1891 census, as she had my grandad in 1895 and his name is Oconnor cannot find any B/D/M for them in that name ty

Marie is it this one?

1861 England Census
about Martha Dickson
Name: Martha Dickson
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Edward
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 171
Household Members: Name Age
Bridget Dickson 20
Edward Dickson 50
Margaret Dickson 4
Martha Dickson 40
Eliza Jones 13
Ellen Jones 50
Alice McKiver 6

and what was your names first name was it margaret or martha?