Genealogy Chat

My Great Great Grandfather, James Wilkinson, was born c1867 in Stockton on Tees. I have found him on the 1871, 1881 & 1901 census returns but NOT the 1891. I remember my Grandmother telling me that her Father had served in the Boer War. As far as I know there were two Boer Wars, the first was 1880-1881 so he would have been too young for that one. The second Boer War was 1899-1902, however his children were BORN in July 1899, July 1900, September 1901, Jan. 1903 and so on. So he must have been in England around October 1898 & October 1899 to father the first two of his children! So my question is where was he when the 1891 census was taken?

Can you give us the 1881 info

is it 1891 ur lookin for? what was his wifes name

Is this a possible, I'm not sure where Garnforth is? Jas Wilkenson Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Garnforth, Durham, England Civil Parish: Wolsingham Ecclesiastical parish: Wolsingham Town: Wolsingham Rural District County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Weardale Sub-registration district: Wolsingham ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age David Pentland 14 Harriett Pentland 7 Jno Pentland 44 Lucy Pentland 10 Mariett Jane Pentland 19 Mary Pentland 5 Phoebe Pentland 43 Wm Pentland 17 Jas Wilkenson 23 Angela

Could this be him???? about Jas Wilkenson Name: Jas Wilkenson Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Garnforth, Durham, England Civil Parish: Wolsingham Ecclesiastical parish: Wolsingham Town: Wolsingham Rural District County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Weardale Sub-registration district: Wolsingham ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age David Pentland 14 Harriett Pentland 7 Jno Pentland 44 Lucy Pentland 10 Mariett Jane Pentland 19 Mary Pentland 5 Phoebe Pentland 43 Wm Pentland 17 Jas Wilkenson 23 Steel Stosser(??) Address:- 10 Durham Road Cottages, Wolsingham It does look like Wilkinson on the image! Sylvia

Louise - It is indeed 1891 census I am looking for, and he married in Nov. 1900, Margaret Josephine Wilson. Angela - He was born in Stockton on Tees not Garnforth . . . sorry! In 1881 he is listed as a 13 year old and living with his family in Stockton on Tees. RG11 4898 155 15.

1881 England Census about James Wilkinson Name: James Wilkinson Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Mary A. Gender: Male Where born: Stockton, Durham, England Civil Parish: Stockton On Tees County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: 66 Webster St Education: Employment status: View Image Occupation: Boiler Maker (Apprentice) Registration district: Stockton Sub-registration district: Stockton ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Eliza Wilkinson 9 Elizabeth Wilkinson 3 Henry Wilkinson James Wilkinson 41 James Wilkinson 13 John Wilkinson 18 Maria Wilkinson 15 Mary A. Wilkinson 41 Mary A. Wilkinson 5 William Wilkinson 7

Louise - that is indeed the family in 1881!

Stu, Don't dismiss that 1891 census so quickly. Remember, the information was probably given to the census enumerator by the head of the house, not your gt grandfather himself. Anyway, where is Garnforth with relation to Stockton????????????

Stu Is this him in the 1901 as the children are down as Step children James Wilkinson Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Stockton, Durham, England Civil Parish: Thornaby Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Middlesbrough Sub-registration district: Thornaby ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 129 Household Members: Name Age Amy Robinson 9 Clifford Robinson 11 Daisy M Robinson 8 months John J Robinson 1 Mabel Robinson 14 Wilfred Robinson 10 James Wilkinson 33 Margaret Wilkinson 37

Julie - Yes that is him on the 1901 census, it was HIS first marriage but my G Grandmothers SECOND marriage. I have a copy of their marriage cert. THEIR first two children were registered in the wifes first married name (Robinson) but were fathered by James Wilkinson! Sylvia - I do't know where Garnforth is! There is a Garforth close to Leeds.

Heres their marriage Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nolan Martin Middlesbro' 9d 1202 Robinson Margaret Josephine Middlesbro' 9d 1202 Watson Frances Ann Middlesbro' 9d 1202 Wilkinson James Middlesbro'. 9d 1202 MIDDLESBROUGH REGISTRATION DISTRICT Registration County : Yorkshire North Riding. Created : 1.10.1875 (out of Easington, Guisborough, Stockton and Stokesley districts). Abolished : 1.4.1968 (succeeded by Teesside South district). Sub-districts : Middlesbrough; Middlesbrough East; Middlesbrough Hospitals; Middlesbrough West; Ormesby; Thornaby.

Stu Are any of the children on the 1901 James's

sylvia Anyway, where is Garnforth with relation to Stockton???????????? 90 miles just had a look for ya mate

Julie - John J & Daisy M are James Wilkinson's children EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS THEY ARE STEP CHILDREN. These two children were registered as Robinson BUT when they married they married as Wilkinson . . . . . that took me a very long time to work out ! ! ! My G Grandmother's first husband died in March 1898, long before these two children were conceived !

Stu This is the only one i can find, but age is out James Wilkinson Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Stockton On Tres Civil Parish: St John The Evangalist Westminster Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: St George Hanover Square Sub-registration district: St John Westminster Just checked births and there was a James born 1874

Louise, Thanks!! I was originally grom Lancashire, but been overseas almost 40 years. I was also intending Stu to think about that. I have this gut feeling that that entry IS his great grandfather! One way to sort it out would be for him to search on the censuses to see if he can find a James Wilkinson (or Wilkenson) born in Garnforth anywhere else. If not ..................................... that isn't proof, but it becomes more likely!!

Daisy and John were probably registered as Robinson's as Mum & Dad weren't married yet

sylvia iv had same probs before ages and spellings different but was them after diggin

The James Wilkinson in Wolsingham from 'Garnforth' will be the one from Gainford who is in Wolsingham in 1881 as nephew to the Pentlands. I wonder if James from Stockton was in the army at some time and was abroad at the time of the census.