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Parliment TV, Re: debate of 1911 Census

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Amanda

Amanda Report 29 Mar 2004 17:18

If for those of you who do not have access to this debate on TV, like myself. If you type parliment tv into your web browser, it will bring up a site where you are able to see the debate and also what is coming up in the next week or so. Click on house of commans and then live, it should be on around 10pm (British time) tonight. Amanda

Pumphrey

Pumphrey Report 29 Mar 2004 18:07

Ther'll be a lot of MPs there at that time of the night. NOT!! Lol Pam

SueinKent

SueinKent Report 29 Mar 2004 20:32

Here here Pam Sue

Elisabeth

Elisabeth Report 29 Mar 2004 20:57

I just looked into BBC Parliament on Digital and there are about half a dozen members sitting - think the rest are in the pub!

Lucky

Lucky Report 29 Mar 2004 22:36

Makes you wonder how this country is run, or not!

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 29 Mar 2004 22:39

there seems to be a lot of " to-ing and fro-ing" going on

BrianW

BrianW Report 29 Mar 2004 22:40

Son's girlfriend's father is under instructions from his daughter to be there!

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 29 Mar 2004 22:41

maybe some of em have just left the pub!LOL

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 29 Mar 2004 22:49

I am watching as Amanda suggested....parliament tv

Kevin

Kevin Report 29 Mar 2004 23:14

They are currently discussing confidentiality.

Kevin

Kevin Report 29 Mar 2004 23:17

I don think itll be passed tonight or voted on to night either

Kevin

Kevin Report 29 Mar 2004 23:20

David Lammy has just said its not going to be released early. so no 1911 census til 2012

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 29 Mar 2004 23:23

sum bloke cum along and knicked the mace orf the table.....and theyve all gorn up the pub!!!!

Kevin

Kevin Report 29 Mar 2004 23:26

Thats it debate over and decision made, the lord chancellor is not going to release the census until the 100 year census rule has been met, then he will decide whether he will release the census. strictly speaking he does not have to do this and can have the census destroyed. the 1931 census has been destroyed in case it fell into german hands in WW2 and there wasn't one taken in 1941. so we are going to have to wait another 8 years.

BrianW

BrianW Report 29 Mar 2004 23:40

Not a debate at all in my view, the Government had made up its mind in advance and that was it. Be interesting to see how many MPs actually were there and what the voting figures were. I doubt if anyone under 15 in 1911 is interested in whether or not data is released, so we are talking about the possibility of offending 108 year olds ! (One or both of them)

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 29 Mar 2004 23:40

I'm really disappointed - was looking forward to seeing this census - I was sure the lure of money would convince them to release it early. How wrong can you be!!

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 29 Mar 2004 23:42

I don't think there were more than a dozen MP's there.

Debbie

Debbie Report 29 Mar 2004 23:48

And one stupid woman in a black and white pin stripe Jacket, I think she needed the loo. God thats' made me so miserable now, i've never really watched things like that before, and thought there was going to be lots of arguments. What a load of codswallop one man saying please can we release it early the other saying no. ok then fine. the end

Paul

Paul Report 29 Mar 2004 23:49

Wish I had £10 to £40 pound to give up, never mind £10 to £40 MILLION. Now which stealth tax will they introduce to make that little lot up. Sorry, just being a pain. Paul

Susanne

Susanne Report 29 Mar 2004 23:57

Am I missing something? The government seem to say that the grounds for not releasing the census was that the general population would lose confidence in the government to keep records closed for 100 years and would therefore be reluctant to fill in future census's. Firstly, The 1911 gave no time limit on closure whereas since 1981 there is a guarentee of 100 years so those filling in the forms now could be assured of that. Secondly, If the census is closed for 100 years in order to protect those that may still be living, what about those that are over 100 years old, do they not count and as people are living longer does this mean that they will change future closures to 150 years? I say that they should ask the people that it affects i.e those age 93 plus, it is those people that the government are trying to protect without actually asking them if that is what they want! That's better got that off my chest. Sue