Genealogy Chat

Night Lorriane. Let me know how it turns out. Crista

I hadn't though of that. But now if I sent off for Josephs birth certificate it wouldn't have the fathers name on it or would it? If she couldn't prove it I suppose it wouldn't . Well im going to send for it you never know there is a suprise around every corner with my family. Well i'm off to bed it is 12.06 and I have work tomorrow. Thanks for your help Crista. If I can be of any help to you although I am a novice dont hesitate to ask I am based in Manchester. Good night

Can't find a Peter who matches for Prescot District. This is the closest match but it's no close to St Helen's. Name: Loftus, Peter Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1896 District: Blackburn County: Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 419 Crista

Lorraine, I don't know how birth registrations worked back then, but perhaps Frederick was working/already in Worksop when Winifred went to register him and she couldn't prove she was married so she had to register him in her name. Crista

Crista Could you tell me if possible if Peter who is five on the list was also registered under his mothers maiden name? Thanks Lorraine

I don't know why either but you have helped me so much I am so thankful for all your help. This one has had me baffled for a couple of weeks and you have added a new twist to make it more interesting. Gosh what a lot to take in. I dont know how you have found all this information but really I am so thankful.

Lorraine, I think he was registered under his mother's maiden name for some reason. Crista

His name is Joseph Aaron Loftus on his marriage records.

Hmmmmm! This is something to think about: Name: Daykin, Joseph Aaron Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1898 District: Sheffield County: South Yorkshire West Riding of Yorkshire Volume: 9c Page: 651 Crista

Lorraine, Do you know what the A stood for? Crista

Winifred was married to Samuel Challoner. I found their marriage and her maiden name was Darkin or Durkin. Crista

I thought Esta futher up on the message board had found him for me as he was born in the same Area he was married but his dob is March 1900 which would make him to young to match the details you have found on the Census Wouldn't it?

Lorraine, Here's the marriage: Marriages Sep 1892 Challoner Winifred Wrexham 11b 355 Lofters Frederick James Wrexham 11b 355 Lofters Fredrick Jone Wrexham 11b 355 Loftus Frederick Jones Wrexham 11b 355 I don't see a birth entry on FreeBMD for Joseph that fits though. Have you found something? Crista

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU CRISTA Yipee It does sound like you have found the right person. I will send off for his Birth certificate. My mum says her grandfather died in 1933 age 35 and remembers him having a brother Uncle Peter. also My Grandmother was Mary Winifred maybe the puzzle is fitting into place......I would like to say a great big thank you for your TIME and HELP the same to everybody who has taken time out to help me. Lorraine.

Lorraine, This could be your family: Name Age in 1901 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image John Challenor 9 Wrepham, Wales Son Worksop Nottinghamshire William Challenor 10 Wrepham, Wales Son Worksop Nottinghamshire Lucy Kirk 48 Barlborough, Derbyshire, England Visitor Worksop Nottinghamshire Joseph A Loftus 3 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Worksop Nottinghamshire Peter Loftus 5 St Helens, Lancashire, England Son Worksop Nottinghamshire Winifred Loftus 36 Armley, Yorkshire, England Head Worksop Nottinghamshire Winifred married a Frederick James or Jones Loftus. Crista

Thanks for your help. I does sound promising I will try alittle more research before I buy another Birth Certificate. Like who was he living with at the time of the census.

I found this............... Name: Loftus, Joseph Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1900 District: Chester le Street County: Co. Durham Volume: 10a Page: 611

I have looked on the 1901 decoder but I dont know his mothers name or where he was born..............On his marriage certificate the information I have are as follows Joseph Loftus age 23 Married Mary Ann Spencer age 25 at Catherine Church of our Lady Immaculate district of Chester Le Street. Profession Colliery worker above surface. Fathers name Frederick Loftus coal Hewer Thanks for your help

What was his father's name and occupation? If you can find him on a census that would help. Crista

If he was already 23 at the wedding, his birth year would be 1899, but he could be approaching his 24th birthday in 1922, in which case his birth year would be 1898. nell