Genealogy Chat

Yes your right I will order them both tomorrow. Thanks to all of you for your help,thoughts and coments. Diane. x

Hi Diane, At the end of the day if it is more than 50 years ago, anyone can buy any of our certificates, so I wouldn't feel too bad about it, and it may just turn out to be your family. You won't know if you don't try. Kath. x

Kathleen If she had been married to a Reid, do you not think it would be to much of a condense that her maiden name was also Reid. I agree that geting the birth cert ificate may answer some questions, but i feel a bit odd looking at someones birth certificate when they may well still be alive ,its ok if it turns out to be our family but if it's not i would feel like i was intruding Diane. x

I would imagine that your theory would be possible but I don't know how probable it would be. I don't know if the woman named Reid would have to be at the second registration as well. Are you certain that the mother with maiden name of Tuohy, wasn't at one time married to a Reid? I think you might just have to order the certificates and hope for the best. Kath. x

Sorry to nudge this but Has anyone got any thoughts on the above theory before i order both birth certificates Diane.

was thinking that maybe The father had a child with a woman by the name of Reid, she registered him in the name of Reid as she was single. She did not wont him so the father took him, he had started a relationship by this time with another woman, they went together and registered him as there child. This being the Fullers. Do you think that would be possible? Would that be legal? if not how would anyone find out? Diane. x

Hi Diane It sounds very much like it is the same person (especially with the numbers at the end of the registration numbers), but can't see why he would be registered as Reid if his mother was never married to a Reid - unless his real father was called Reid and went with the mother to register his birth on the original registration and they made a mistake with the mother's maiden name. It all sounds a bit complicated. I would send for the Fuller birth certificate and see what it says. Kath. x

Ok dont know if this helps but could help to explain why 2 birth registrations I was born in 1971 and my understanding from my mother is that if parents were not married then the child would not have a father listed on the certificate and the birth would be registered under your mother's surname - as I have found with many an old ancestor and their children! However, my parents married after my birth and my birth was registered again so I could have my father's name. So in the BMD index you will find Q1 1971 Name: Steward, Susan Mother: Steward District: Bradford Blah Blah also Name: Barnett Susan Mother: Steward District: Bradford Blah Blah and then also under each surname I am there again, this time with a different reg/page number. This is the link between the two birth registrations. The only problem with this is I cannot apply for a full birth certificate, as when they look at the register, they are directed to the final entry for me under the name of Barnett and therefore I only get a birth certificate with my name, place of birth and date of birth, no parents are listed. Hope that all makes sense. Regards Sue

Diane, Whereabouts is Moldon in Surrey? It is not in the Genuki index of places in England. Liz

Hi again Sorry to nudge this but was hoping that someone would comment on my last massage. Diane. x

Kathleen That's interesting, Terence is a very close relative, he told me that when he was about 14 he went snooping and found a small birth certificate with the name Terence Michael Reid on it. He did wonder at the time if this was him, but never asked his mum or dad. He has a birth certificate with his name Michael Terence Fuller born March 1946. He ask me a few days ago to look him up in the register so i have. But how could his mum who has the maiden name of Tuohy (not to far away from Triohy) register him twice. once under the name of Fuller and then again under the name of Reid. His mother's first and only marriage was to a Fuller in 1947. The only birth entry for Terence M Reid was in Apr 1946 Surrey Mid E 2a 310 Mothers maiden name Reid. Do you or any one else think that this is the same person? He told me he was born Moldon Surrey so do either of these district numbers match Moldon surrey? Look forward to you thoughts. Diane. x

Probably just a late entry, or it could be that his name was re-registered with a different one. I know of someone who was registered in her mother's first married name (although her father was actually someone else), so when her mother left her first husband to be with the child's father, the child was re-registered under her real fathers name. There is a change to the number's after her name on the original entry. Kath. x

similar thing applies Terance Fuller- mothers name Triorhy -Surrey Ne 5g p 150. Its a late entry that was left off the original logging Shirley

I am so sorry about this but i have it all wrong The name is Fuller Not Reid i am looking in to two name at the moment so sooooooooo sorry would you mind looking again for all the above but with the name of Fuller not Reid. Diane

I have looked at births Jan/Feb/Mar 1946 and there is no Terence Reid that I can see. Sorry, Liz

I cant see him either the handwritten ones are Reilly & Rennie. Right got it !! its in April - June qtr! says Chesterfield 3a (or 5a,its a bit blurred)see J' 63. If you look up the page he is listed as Chesterfield 7b!! p 1314 guess they are altering the 7b to 3a (or 5a) by doing a correction in Journal p 63. which is an internal correction to the record. Sort of like accounting correction journals,if you,ve ever done accounts Shirley

I must be doing something wrong, as I can't even see a Terence Reid in the March qtr. of 1946. Kath. x

To the best of my knowledge he is not adopted , what makes you think that ? Diane.

I have a vague recollection this might be an internal ref. and might refer to an adoption.

Could you please look at Ancestry free Birth Death and Marriage's Go to Birth Jan/Feb/March 1946 Terence Fuller (Not Reid) At the very bottom of the page, hand written It say's Terence Reid Triohy Surrey N.E. 5G see 8 150 First of all Surrey N. E should be 2A it is all the others so where is 5G please? Is that an 8? When it say's see 150 what and where do i look for 150 please. I have added this bit the name should be Fuller Not Reid. Regards Diane.