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I have, on the 1871 - Robert Lamb (age 49), wife - Hannah (48), and son Joseph (20), - Living in Windmill St., Manchester. - All born Manchster, Lancs I have Joseph on the later census's, but not before. I cannot find Robert or Hannah on ANY other census's. I cannot find a birth reference for Joseph, nor a marriage for Robert + Hannah, so I can't send for any certs to help I have found a possible for Robert on 1851 but I don't really think this is him. Can anyone find any of them, anywhere please ??? Dea x

Thank you Pauline but that's not the same Joseph - I have him on 1871 with parents, then '81, 91, + 1901 with wife Hannah. I cannot find him before 1871, nor his parents before '71, or after. ?? Dea x

Ranked Search Results - 1871 England Census For Ref View Record Hannah Lamb abt 1823 Manchester, Lancashire, England Wife Manchester Lancashire View Record Joseph Lamb abt 1851 Manchester, Lancashire, England Son Manchester Lancashire View Record Robert Lamb abt 1822 Manchester, Lancashire, England Head Manchester Lancashire June x

Pauline - thanks for your help - that marriage Robert to Hannah looked very exciting BUT I can not find a ref in that period for Robert and the one for Hannah is in Ashton Vol 20 p 55? I am grateful for your help BUT confused. Dea x

Which site did you find them on Pauline? Dea x

Marriages Jun 1851 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Halkyard Hannah Ashton 20 537 Lamb Robert Manchester 20 537 off freebmd June x

I'm not sure Pauline - There is an obvious error on the information on this page - All the others are registered Manchester but Hannah's marriage is reg. Ashton under Lyne. It doesn't add up. Dea x

Thanks also to June, but I am still confused - I have looked at Hannah's details and it gives Ashton 20 55. I cannot see how this can tie up with Robert in Manchester. ?? Is it just me? Dea x

These are the page ranges for that quarter from Ashton through to Manchester according to FreeBMD: Jun 20 1-82 Ashton under Lyne Jun 20 83-111 Barton upon Irwell (1850-1934) Jun 20 113-142 Chorlton Jun 20 143-417 Liverpool (1837-1924) Jun 20 419-738 Manchester (1837-1924) So it doesn't look possible for a 3-digit number to belong to Ashton. I am just going to look at the image for Hannah, but just to confuse things further I looked at the image for Robert first and I am not sure that the page number is 537 - it looks more like 531 to me. Back soon! Kate.

I am way confused now! There are 8 people listed for page 531, 4 men and 4 women, one duplicated with different spellings of her name but 8 different people, so that page looks as though they are all there, so Robert must be page 537 after all. But there are 10 people listed for page 537! I thought there could only be 8! And no Hannahs on either page. Well, anyway, it looks as though Hannah whatever-her-name-was got married in Ashton and her page number has been mistranscribed somewhere and should be 55, and the Robert Lamb who got married in Manchester Jun 1851 didn't marry a Hannah. Doesn't really get you much further, I'm afraid, except that it looks as if you can rule that one out. Kate.

Thank you Kate - That's what I found. Although it was very exciting to think they were there - somehow it just didn't add up. Thank you though to those who offered the information. I will just have to keep looking. Dea X

Dea- found them!!!! British Isles Search Results | Download | Pedigree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ROBERT LAMB Male Family -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: HANNAH MARVELL Family Marriage: 09 JUN 1851 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England Tada!! Kate.

So that must have been the right Robert Lamb entry on FreeBMD after all, but we still have page number confusion: Marriages Jun 1851 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marvell Hannah Manchester 20 551 At least it means I was right about that last digit being a '1' and not a '7'. I will have a look at this Hannah's entry if the kids don't chuck me off the computer before it loads! Kate.

THANK YOU Kate!! I had this name quite a while ago from IGI but could never find a reference to order the cert - I will go and have another look now. Dea

There are quite a few people missing from page 551 as far as FreeBMD's transcriptions go, so certainly room for a missing Robert Lamb. Hannah's entry has loaded and the page number is definitely 551, so I bet if you re-check Robert's you will see it is 551, but I don't have time to load that page again now as my daughter is desperate to go on the computer! Bye for now. Kate.

All the odds are against me - I cannot tie this up on Ancestry, Free Bmd, Lancs Bmd, Family relatives, and even 1837 on line has the pages missing. To H*** with it I am going to order the marriage cert on Hannah Marvell - I have 'known' for a long time it was her but I can't prove it., SO, - prove, or disprove - at least it will be £7 well spent. !!! Thanks for everyone's help. Dea x

Dea - I've looked at the image for Robert again and I'm pretty sure the page number is 551. If you look at the middle digit and compare it to the 3's on the page, they all have very curvy tops but the middle digit here has a flat top. I think there is just a horizontal stroke joined to the top of the '1' at the end which makes it look like a 3. And the final digit is definitely a 1, not a 7, because all the 7's on the page have a curly bit at the top and a very deep tail. I will post a correction on FreeBMD, but it may be a long time before they put it up. Anyway, I am sure you will get the right certificate if you order using Hannah Marvell's details as the correct page number is given for her. Kate.

Thanks Kate, I still can't find an image to look at for Robert, but I have always thought the Hannah Marvell was the right one - I have ordered the cert so I will wait and see. Thanks for your help. Dea x

All you have to do to look at the image for Robert is search on FreeBMD and when you get the transcription, click on the pair of spectacles next to it, then when you get the 'Entry Information' choose the first one of the three scans it has for you to choose from and click on 'View the Original'. Kate.