Genealogy Chat

thankyou all so much for your help you are great:) ive now concluded that mary and jane smith are sisters. abraham billett married mary smith,henry dines married jane smith. i will get the certs to confirm that we are right thankyou all so much for your help love susie

Marriage Henry Dines Year of Registration: 1879 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Newbury County: Berkshire, Hampshire Volume: 2c Page: 439 One of the famales is Jane SMITH. Jennifer

In 1901 there is a DINES family living in Little Bedwyn, the next village to Bagshot, it is possible Henry and Jane DINES are Rose's parents. RG13; Piece: 1125; Folio: 55 Jennifer

There's this death for a Abraham Billett in Wiltshire, could be she moved back to Berkshire after his death. I noticed Rose was born Wiltshire. Deaths Mar 1872 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Billett Abraham 43 Chippenham 5a 37

In 1881 William and Mary in Kintbury on their own, but the name is BOWELS. RG11; Piece: 1273; Folio: 38; Page: 37 Jennifer

F.C thankyou. i will have a look at the image aswell. if billett is her married name then there is a good chance that rose dines mother is marys sister. i say this because i found an abraham billett marriage to a mary smith. and rose dines mothers maiden name was smith!! susie

Image for this family looks like Billett to me?? Can't seem to find them in 1881, still looking. 1871. Name: Mary Bellitto Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1835 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Abraham Gender: Female Where born: Newbury, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Newbury Ecclesiastical parish: Newbury St Nicholas Town: Newbury County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Newbury Sub-registration district: Newbury ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 75 Household Members: Name Age Abraham Bellitto 40 Frank Bellitto 6 Mary Bellitto 36 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1249; Folio: 59; Page: 13; GSU roll: 827838.

nell yes thats them ann jules was actually mary ann eeles who married william bowles snr in 1851 sarah was her daughter but im not sure if she was also williams daughter. william snr is my gt gt gt grandads brother. susie

1861, still in Newbury Alice Bowles 7 Eliza Ann Bowles 9 Harry Bowles 1 Mary Ann Bowles 40 Sarah Bowles 13 William Bowles 35 William Bowles 11

I guess this is William in 1851 - several possible females who could have been mothers to the two girls: Name Age William Bowles 24 William Bowles 1 Richard Breeze 19 Jane Harris 20 Ann Jules 30 Sarah Bowles Jules 3

nell ive ordered the marriage cert so i'll let you know what the outcome is lol susie

William and Mary's marriage cert would state if Mary had been married before, confirm her maiden name and hopefully give both fathers which might make it easier to find her in 1851 and thus her family in 1841 with any possible siblings. nell

im glad its not just me nell thought i was going mad lol

They are proving very elusive on previous censuses and baptism records. I can see why you are baffled.

nell i hadnt thought of that lol my bowles family all came from newbury so i guess ive been barking up the wrong tree...again lol

1901 for ref General shop, Kintbury, Berks. William Bowles 50 farmer & shopkeeper. Newbury, Berks. Mary Bowles 60 Florence Westall 22 shop asst b. Kintbury Rose Dines 13 scholar b Bagshot Wilts. Florence wouldn't have been legally adopted as this only occurred after 1927. But she may have been an orphan girl they took in with a view to her helping in the shop. She was born in the same village as the shop, so unless you have rellies of William and Mary in the same village, I wouldn't assume a family connection. nell

jennifer thanks hun, i had wondered if alice was her mum . there must be a connection between the bowles,billetts,dines and westalls somewhere but im darned if i can find it susie

nell thanks hun ive been trying to work this out for the last 2 days and cant seem to find anything lol. susie

In 1881 Florence is with her grand parents, I suspect she is the daughter of Alice WESTALL aged 17, also living with them. RG11; Piece: 1273; Folio: 35; Page: 31; Jennifer

According to the info you have, Mary was 10 years older than her husband, so its possible she was married before. Rose could be the daughter of either Mary or her husband's sisters. I will see what I can sniff out. nell