Genealogy Chat

Hi all Please help I have a marriage certificate from 1879 but the copy is not good and I can not make out the woman Sarah Ann Knight's father's occupation or the first witness? I believe strongly that the father's occupation could help me find them all in the cenus as I have struck a blank there too. Willing to send a scanned copy of the certificate to anyone happy to help, just pm and send me your email address Thanks again everyone Joanna

Joanna, I have sent you a pm with my email, happy to have a look, but I'm no expert.

Have you tried using the magnifier under Accessories. Only discovered this on my PC the other day.

Selena Have emailed you the certificate hopefully you have it or will do shortly Joanna

If you need another pair of eyes glad to help Michelle

Thanks Tink Will give that ago and see if I can work it out Joanna

Michelle I would need an email address which I could send an attachment too, as cant send a file on GR as far as I know. If your happy to send me your email just PM it to me Joanna

Any ideas yet? Rose

Rose Nope no ideas yet, I have had three people offer to look, and one unfortunately has replied dont know? But I completley appreciate each and every person's help, awaiting the reply from the others with any ideas Joanna

10year daughter had a look and suggested Walworth Surrey we're still looking

Just to let everyone know. Witness Selena suggested second name could be FULLER? and Amy suggested Florence or Maureen for first name of witness and Shoe as second part of the father's occupation?? Anymore ideas greatly received Joanna

Just to let everyone know. Witness Selena suggested second name could be FULLER? and Amy suggested Florence or Maureen for first name of witness and Shoe as second part of the father's occupation?? Anymore ideas greatly received Joanna

I was thinking FLorence or Pleasance for the witness but then thought it's likely to be a male witness. There's usually one of each sex. It might say Engine Driver? Not sure the first letter is an S because it's different to all the other Ss on the page. Rose

Rose Engine Driver is a really good idea. If you look at the signiture of the registrar the surname looks like Dunford to me and the second part the occupation the first letter looks the same as the D for Dunford, so def convinced that is a D. Joanna

Sorry Joanna I have been trying my hardest but couldn't make it out. I agree that 'driver' could be the second part of the occupation but the writing styles seem to differ from one part of the cert to the next. Do you have any details from other censuses or family marriages which may shed light on the witness. An in-law to be ? or close friend and neighbour ? Michelle

Christine Thanks for offer just sent you the image of certificate. Michelle Thanks for looking, no cant think who the witness could be. I know that the marriage was in Amport Church and that William White family live in the White Horse Inn, Amport (that is why his occupation is Inn Keeper, or landlord these days). I have not checked neighbours to the pub, but suppose it could just be a regular. Mary White I believe was William's Mother as he did not as far as I know have a sister called Mary, unless she was a sister-in-law. Thanks everyone again for your help Joanna

Joanna I have pm you

Elaine and Elizabeth have just sent you both the image of the certificate, sorry it takes my computer a while to attach file and got two messages at same time, didnt like to CC it as dont want to give peoples email address out, only right to do it individually to stop this, out of respect to everyone. Joanna

Do you think the witness might be Florence Ilsley? I have a whacked out theory that Sarah made up her father. Bear with me a bit..... There's this family in 1861: Name: Sarah Ann Knight Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Mary Ann Gender: Female Where born: Basingstoke, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Newbury Town: Newbury County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Registration district: Newbury Sub-registration district: Newbury ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Florence Knight 5 Maria Knight 9 Mary Ann Knight 29 Sarah Ann Knight 7 William Knight 23 Sarah was born in Basingstoke but they're near Reading now. She has a sister called Florence and William occupations is Engines. By the next census there's a brother Stephen Charles. The first 3 children Sarah, Maria and Florence are actually Pococks and their father was Stephen. Florence marries an Ilsley. I don't see an obvious marriage for a Sarah Ann Pocock. LONG SHOT I know. Rose

Wow Rose Now thats a theory but beginning to believe that anything is possible as can not find a birth/ marriage or death for a Charles Stephen Knight on Ancestry and would at least expect a death unless he died from 1915 onwards as believe ancestry goes up to this date for deaths approx. Joanna