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hi,this is my second request for my g grandmother zipporah williamson b 1873 in hyde,cheshire.....pretty certain her mother was charlotte williamson,b 1851 in glossop,derbyshire......i would like to trace zipporahs father and charlottes maiden name if possible.......i`m going on cheshire bmd`s and derbyshire/cheshire marriages....in the meantime,if anyone has any tips,i would appreciate them......regards...allan

what does 1881 census say? where and when did she herself marry? is this hers? Name: Zipporah Williamson Year of Registration: 1891 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep DISTRICT: Ashton Under Lyne County: Cheshire, Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 789 Robert walker or Thomas Kay or 3rd groom not listed

yes scarlet....she married robert walker,and they were my dads grandparents....they moved to garston,liverpool after they married..obviously,before he died ,my dad gave me info on them.evidently zipporah was a bit of a character down garston docks selling fresh prawns as a living,so everyone knew her....i think the unusual name helped as well...so many people remember her....regards...allan...

her fathers name will be on her marriage cert. sibling names?

garsonite, isnt that another reason to get her marriage cert? the marraige you know to be yours ? Not only will it give her age, its will tell her fathers name. Zipporah is unusual I'll grant you - maybe a family name , increases the likely hood of here being more than one In my opinion. her name isnt unique! another marriage Zipporah Williamson 1891 Jul-Aug-Sep Ashton Under Lyne Cheshire, Lancashire Zipporah Williamson 1911 Apr-May-Jun Liverpool (1837-1924) 1891 census is this one yours or is it the other one? Zipporah Williamson abt 1873>> Mottram, Derbyshire<<, England Servant Colne Lancashire

so now i need someones expertise.......i have zipporah williamson b 1876 in hayfield vol 7b pge 810...(not in hyde 1873) married in 1891 in ashton u lyne vol 8d pge 789.....THIS WOULD MAKE HER 15....could there possibly be 2 zipporah williamsons b within 3 years in the same area??....any ideas anyone????......allan

Hi, just found Zipporah Williamson death registration 1868 in Hayfield (covers parts of Cheshire and parts of Derbyshire), born approx 1868 - i.e. neither of the above people, but adds support to the comment that it may be a family name.

thanks,ivy/scarlet.......FOUR zipporahs ......this is going to take a little sorting......scarlet...i had my zipporah as 1873 ,hyde,cheshire......then i found 1876,hayfield derbyshire.....be back later..i`m confused.....thanks....allan

1881 census variation on a theme- But Hyde Name: Zipporah Wilcockson Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Werneth, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Hyde County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address: Birch House Occupation: Servant Registration district: Stockport Sub-registration district: Hyde ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Florence E. Astle 18 Bridget Battle 71 Edward W. Battle 9 Ernest W.C. Battle 5 Evangeline Battle 15 John K. Battle 46 Sarah Battle 48 Margaret A. Chatterton 17 Sarah J. Chatterton 19 Zipporah Wilcockson 14 <<

Is this your family in 1901? Name: Zipporah Walker Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Robert Gender: Female Where born: Mottram, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Mottram Ecclesiastical parish: Mottram in Longdendale St Mary Magdalene County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Registration district: Ashton-under-Lyne Sub-registration district: Mottram ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 73 Household Members: Name Age Martha Walker 7 b Broadbottom (part of Mottram) Robert Walker 37 Hairdresser born Hyde Zipporah Walker 25 Reeler in cotton mill Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3803; Folio: 47; Page: 12.

yes andrea........thats definitely them........i`m going to have to purchase robert and zipporahs marriage cert to find out who zipporahs parents were.......regards....allan

Just for interest then 1891 Name: Zipporah Williamson Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Mottram, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Colne Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew Town: Colne County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Burnley Sub-registration district: Colne ED, institution, or vessel: 34 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Fred Coar 27 Hale Coar 27 Lilian Coar 1 Eley Hott 18 Rebecca Peate 31 Zipporah Williamson 18 (15 on image) Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3380; Folio 127; Page 1; GSU roll: 6098490. and 1881 Name: Zepporah Williamson Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Mottram, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Glossop Dale County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: 7 Greenfield St Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Hayfield Sub-registration district: Glossop ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Stevenson 18 Arthur Williamson 17 Charlotte Williamson 28 James Williamson 50 Jas. Hy. Williamson 13 Margret Williamson 54 Samuel Williamson 2 Sarah Ann Williamson 19 Selena Williamson 23 Zepporah Williamson 5 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3460; Folio: 11; Page: 20; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341828. So she seems to have been born in Mottram but I can't find her on Cheshire BMD which is where she should be. However Glossop came in the Hayfield district.

thanks very much andrea.........i`m going to purchase zipporah and roberts marriage certificate......then zipporahs birth certificate.....i somehow think that zipporah was the illegitimate child of charlotte williamson.....only one way to find out.....regards...allan

Consider this one in 1891 too Name: Charlotte Hill Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Caleb Gender: Female Where born: Glossop, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Glossop Ecclesiastical parish: Dinting Town: Gamesley County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Hayfield Sub-registration district: Glossop ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Caleb Hill 33 Charlotte Hill 38 Samuel W Hill 12 Zipporah W Hill 15 Mother Charlotte/daughter Zip born: Mottram, Cheshire, England Cant see a marriage to back it up but....

freebmd extract on Ancestry has 86 Zipporah births registered in Cheshire alone! So, far from an unusual name!! Reg

The LDS version of 1881.....showing full details James WILLIAMSON Head M Male 50 Hyde, Cheshire, England Cotton Spinner Margret WILLIAMSON Wife M Female 54 Penistone, York, England Charlotte WILLIAMSON Daugh U Female 28 Glossop, Derby, England Cotton Weaver Selena WILLIAMSON Daugh U Female 23 Glossop, Derby, England Cotton Weaver Sarah Ann WILLIAMSON Daug M Female 19 Glossop, Derby, England Cotton Weaver Arthur WILLIAMSON Son U Male 17 Glossop, Derby, England Cotton Piecer Jas. Hy. WILLIAMSON Son Male 13 Glossop, Derby, England Cotton Piecer Zepporah WILLIAMSON Grand Dau Female 5 Mottram, Cheshire, England Scholar Samuel WILLIAMSON Grand Son Male 2 Hadfd, Derby, England James STEVENSON Son In Law M Male 18 Buckingham, England Cotton Piecer This would suggest that the two grandchildren may both be illegitimate.......... Reg

thanks reg.......so who do you think james stevenson aged 18 is married to???.......regards...allan

Hi Zipporah means 'female or little bird' She was the first wife of Moses. I have a Zipporah Wood 1819-1874 of Hadfield, DBY who married Dr. William C Vaudrey in Bredbury, Hyde, CHS. Regards Vera

Just for ref following Andrea's post...1861 census Name: Charlotte Williamson Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation: Daughter Father's name: James Mother's name: Margery Gender: Female Where born: Glossop, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Glossop Ecclesiastical parish: Whitfield Town: Glossop County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Hayfield Sub-registration district: Glossop ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 69 Household Members: Name Age Charles Kay Williamson 16 Charlotte Williamson 9 James Williamson 30 Margery Williamson 32 Selina Williamson 3 Thomas Williamson 7 Linda

James isn't married.......... Son in law used to mean stepson. Reg