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Linda

Linda Report 20 Jun 2007 23:38

I have Charlotte Parsons 1826c born London Rd., St. Georges, Southwark she has three children Joseph 1848c Charles 1856c and Charlotte 1860. All entries I've found doesn't have her husband John on them. She is shown as a widow from 1861 Census onward. Charles marriage cert. shows his father as John Arnold but Charlottes birth cert. has a line through fathers name. Can't find a marriage, death or birth or John and can't trace through Charlotte as I have no maiden name. Any suggestions please. Lin

NicolaDunbyNocula

NicolaDunbyNocula Report 21 Jun 2007 00:10

Where exactly were they living on the 1861 census lin? Nicola

Georgina

Georgina Report 21 Jun 2007 00:20

1861 census for reference... Name: Joseph Parsons Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relation: Son Mother's name: Charlotte Gender: Male Where born: Newington, Surrey, England Civil parish: Newington Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Newington Sub-registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 204 Household Members: Name Age Hannah Foster 33 Adelaide Grant 19 Charles Parsons 5 Charlotte Parsons 33 Charlotte Parsons 5 Mo Joseph Parsons 13 Emma Twitchet 18 Georgina.

Linda

Linda Report 21 Jun 2007 00:21

Hi Nichola, They were living at 4, New Street, Lambeth

Linda

Linda Report 21 Jun 2007 00:24

Hi Georgina, I had found the 1861 Census and 1871,but no trace of John the husband????

Thelma

Thelma Report 21 Jun 2007 00:28

There is one thing that puzzles me.You say you have Charlotte's birth cert.Yet you do not have her mothers maiden name. Or have I misunderstood?

NicolaDunbyNocula

NicolaDunbyNocula Report 21 Jun 2007 00:29

I have found this death June quarter 1858 PARSONS John Newington 1d 128

NicolaDunbyNocula

NicolaDunbyNocula Report 21 Jun 2007 00:31

June quarter 1858 PARSONS John Lambeth 1d 171

NicolaDunbyNocula

NicolaDunbyNocula Report 21 Jun 2007 00:32

thats a good point jim, usually you have the mothers maiden name on the birth cert. Nicola

Georgina

Georgina Report 21 Jun 2007 00:32

Nicola the only trouble with the death you found is that Charlotte has a 5month old baby on the 1861 census, unless someone else is the father? Georgina.

Georgina

Georgina Report 21 Jun 2007 00:38

It looks like she wasn't married... CHARLES PARSONS Male Event(s): Birth: 16 MAR 1856 Saint Mary Newington Workhouse, Southwark, London, England Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Mother: CHARLOTTE PARSONS Georgina.

Linda

Linda Report 21 Jun 2007 00:43

Hi Jim, I sent for the birth cert. for Charlotte in order to get the mothers maiden name but the cert. has a dash accross fathers name and the mothers name is Charlotte Parsons no maiden name given. I'm beginning to wonder if Charlottes maiden name is Parsons and that she isn't married at all but I also have the marriage cert. for Charles which says fathers name John Parsons but to add to this I've just discovered a Charles Parsons born 16/03/1856 in St Marys Newington Workhouse, mother Charlotte Parsons!!! What now?

Georgina

Georgina Report 21 Jun 2007 00:44

I wonder if this is her older son but she decided to call him Joseph?? WILLIAM PARSONS Male Event(s): Birth: 13 MAY 1848 Saint Mary Newington Workhouse, Southwark, London, England Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Mother: CHARLOTTE PARSONS Georgina.

Linda

Linda Report 21 Jun 2007 00:45

Don't think that's the death Nichola, I think he would have been born circa 1825

Linda

Linda Report 21 Jun 2007 00:47

Oh God Georgina, this just gets worse, so Joseph may really be William,how can I know for sure?

NicolaDunbyNocula

NicolaDunbyNocula Report 21 Jun 2007 00:47

Have you got the birth cert for Charles, if not I would get it first to make sure that its correct. More than likely it will be though, if her maiden name is down as Parsons. Nicola

Thelma

Thelma Report 21 Jun 2007 00:50

marriage, looks a possibility if she was married. John Parsons 1846 Apr-May-Jun Newington Surrey Charlotte Jane Cundell 1846 Apr-May-Jun Newington Surrey PS you will find that the page no. for John is 383 on the image.

Linda

Linda Report 21 Jun 2007 00:52

No Nichola, I don't have Charles birth cert. I do have his marriage cert. he is Charles Wm. Parsons aged 25. Would it really be worth getting it, it'll probably come back like his sisters - with a dash across fathers name and no maiden name the same as the daughter Charlottes.

NicolaDunbyNocula

NicolaDunbyNocula Report 21 Jun 2007 00:54

You really need to get the birth certs lin, is only way to be sure it could be that this charlotte parsons in workhouse isn't your rellie, if the date of birth is exact on the birth certs as it is on what georgina found than you can certain its the same people.

Linda

Linda Report 21 Jun 2007 00:56

Jim, Where did you find that marriage, I've looked forever without success. Only thing is, what was she doing in the workhouse in 1846 and again 1856 if she had a husband?