Genealogy Chat

June You little darling you!!!! many many thanks. Had second thoughts on what everyone said about his father being a made up name....If Henry was only a Gen lab. and Father John was a bricklayer....seems a bit odd that he diddnt follow in his fathers footsteps dont you think? I hate liars! I hate Henry and I hate John I also hate this hobby!! Not really lol Thanks again for all your time and effort. Gerri x

1871 for that one i found in 1861 Name: Alvey Ford Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Relation: Son Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Asaph County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Thomas ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 92 Household Members: Name Age Alvey Ford 17 image reads Henry Elizabeth Ford 45 1851 census Name: Elizabeth Ford Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Birmm, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Birmingham St Thomas County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: /married Disability: View image Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Thomas ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Ford 28 Rebecca Ford 10 William Ford 8 Thomas Hawkins 3 June x

Kath I think your right but shame theres no Father John :-(( I'm sending for that cert and see if that gives any clues. Thanks everyone for your time and help. Gerri x

I have nothing else on John Kath....sigh! While this threads been running I have been looking for deaths..Just found a good one for John Ford 1860 Q3 Birmingham 6d-30. 1861 census night was 7 April. Off to splash the cash....Sshhhhhh Gerri x

The Henry Ford that June found in 1861 looks like a good bet to me. Do you have a reason for discounting him? Kath. x

I do realise that Reg but why cant I find him on any census? Also his father John the brickie? Gerri x

Do you only have John Ford's name on the marriage certificate for Henry or have you got other proof of his existence? If so could he be a 'made up' father to cover the fact that Henry was illegitimate? Many illegitimate children suddenly acquire a 'deceased' father for their marriage to give a sense of respectability in front of the in-laws. Kath. x

Birth registration wasn't compulsory till 1875.........he may simply not have been registered........... And 'deceased' fathers were often a cover for illegitimacy............ Reg

Thanks girls I had seen that one june...but...aaagghhh! Just seen another bit of info...John Ford was a bricklayer. Gerri x

1861 census maybe Name: Henry Ford Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Relation: Son Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 63 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Ford 36 widow Henry Ford 7 Rebecca Ford 20 June x

I have Henry Ford a Carter/Waggoner/gen lab born c1853 either Birmingham Warks or Walsall Staffs....or? This info was from his marriage 14-7-1877 aged 24. Walsall Staffs. Wife Elizabeth Pilliner b Herefordshire. His father was John Ford (deceased)<<<MY PROBLEM! Info confirmed by childrens birth certs. (One being my grandad)All born in Walsall Staffs. The problem!......I cannot find a birth for Henry Ford or find Henry with Parents John Ford and Mother ? !!!! Henry was still alive in 1907 but dead before 1913 but thats another problem...Ok Ok I know! I'm rambling!....lol sorry. Can anyone find a Henry Ford with a Father John Ford? The midlands?? please please pretty please? Gerri x

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