Thank you again. now trying to find Robert fanning and mary herring in ireland ..any help gratefully recieved from you folks out there !! :-) Chrissy
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Robert with a brother and sister?? Or maybe cousins, as not born Tipperary, apparently?
Robert Fanning in the 1851 England Census
Name: Robert Fanning Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Servant (Employee) Gender: Male Where born: Tepperary, Ireland [Tipperary, Ireland] Civil Parish: St Mary Whitechapel Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Whitechapel North ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 79 Piece: 1545 Folio: 192 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age William Parnell 34 Mary Parnell 47 William Parnell 5 Edward Parnell 17 Robert Fanning 22 - labourer Patrick Fanning 20 - labourer - Ireland, Bally-something (possibly Ballylanders, Limerick ??) Catherine Fanning 18 - house servant - Ireland, Bally-something
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Hi ArgyllGran Thank you so much yet again..I knew there was an Irish connection as Mother remember"s her gran having an accent.brilliant yet again. I did try researching myself and found the Fanning thing but was not sure ,so put it out for you experts.Anybody reading This.These folks are amazing.Thankyou so Much :-) :-D Regards Chrissy
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Her parents' marriage:
Marriages Jun 1852 (>99%) Fanning Robert Whitechapel 1c 845 Herring Mary Whitechapel 1c 845
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Her father's death:
Deaths Dec 1866 (>99%) Fanning Robert 35 St.Geo.East 1c 343
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Kata Fanning in the 1861 England Census
Name: Kata Fanning [Kate Fanning] Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: 1856 Relation: Daughter (Child) Father's name: Robert Fanning Mother's name: Mary Fanning Gender: Female Where born: Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Whitechapel Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Whitechapel North ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 140 Piece: 270 Folio: 14 Page Number: 35 Household Members: Name Age Robert Fanning 30 -Ireland Mary Fanning 29 - Ireland Julia Fanning 9 Mary Fanning 7 Kata Fanning 5 Ellen Fanning 3 Fanny Fanning 10/12 Richard Norman 50 - lodger
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Catherine Fanning England and Wales Census, 1871 Name: Catherine Fanning Event Type: Census Event Date: 1871 Gender: Female Age: 14 Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Birthplace: Whitechapel, Middlesex Registration District: Whitechapel Sub-District: Whitechapel, North Parish: Whitechapel County: London, Middlesex Household Role Gender Age Birthplace Mary Fanning Self F 46 Ireland, Limerick Julia Fanning Daughter F 17 Whitechapel, Middlesex Mary Fanning Daughter F 16 Whitechapel, Middlesex Catherine Fanning Daughter F 14 Whitechapel, Middlesex Ellen Fanning Daughter F 7 Whitechapel, Middlesex Bridget Fanning Daughter F 5 Whitechapel, Middlesex
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Her death? Harry's a widower in 1891:
Deaths Jun 1890 (>99%) Ackers Catherine 32 St. Giles 1b 374
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Marriages Mar 1878 (>99%) ACKERS Harry Alfred Whitechapel 1c 587 Fanning Catherine Whitechapel 1c 587
1881 & 1891 censuses for them and children are posted on page 1 of this thread.
Her birth - one of these:
Births Jun 1856 (>99%) FANNING Catherine St Geo East 1c 419
Births Sep 1856 (>99%) Fanning Catherine Whitechapel 1c 356
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I really appreciate all the info.. next step is Catherine Akers 1857 Harry's wife 1855.. Thank you in advance Chrissy
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OMG as they say just read all this info wow!!! very likely they are relatives thankyou so much my quest gets wider wider ... really appreciate all your research. Chrissy
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Anton's in Kelly's
Name: Anton Treimel Street address: 50 Walton cres St Thomas' Oxford Publication Title: 1939 Kelly's Directory County: Oxfordshire Country: England Publication Year: 1939********
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Nothing to do with Kathleen Ackers, but just for interest (mainly my own, I expect!) - maybe a Treimel relative?? Born in Schardenberg, which is in the district of Scharding.
Joseph Treimel
in the New York, Naturalization Records, 1882-1944 Name: Joseph Treimel Birth Date: 29 Jun 1863 Birth Place: Austria (Schardenberg) Arrival Year: 1893 Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization Event Date: 18 Aug 1925 Event Place: New York, USA Court: Southern District, New York Children: Anna, Agnes, Joseph, Louis (all born NY) Occupation: waiter Widower.
J Tremel in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 Name: J Tremel Gender: Male Departure Date: 28 Jan 1893 Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination Port: New York, USA Ship Name: Servia Master: Captain Dutton
Joseph Treimel in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Joseph Treimel Arrival Date: 7 Feb 1893 Birth Date: abt 1865 Age: 28 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Servia Married; travelling alone, no occupation.
Joseph Treemel in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Joseph Treemel [Joseph Trumel] Age in 1910: 45 Birth Year: abt 1865 Birthplace: Austria Home in 1910: Manhattan Ward 22, New York, New York Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Maria Trumel Father's Birthplace: Austria Mother's Birthplace: Austria Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Treemel 45 Maria Trumel 40 - born Austria Anna Trumel 3 Agnes Trumel 0 [8/12]
Joseph Treimel in the 1920 United States Federal Census Name: Joseph Treimel [Joseph Vreimel] [Joseph Friemel] Age: 56 Birth Year: abt 1864 Birthplace: Austria Home in 1920: Manhattan Assembly District 5, New York, New York Street: West 50 St Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1893 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Widowed [Widow] Father's Birthplace: Austria Mother's Birthplace: Austria Native Tongue: German Able to Speak English: Yes Occupation: Steward Industry: Hotel Employment Field: Wage or Salary Naturalization Status: Naturalized Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Treimel 56
(Living alone)
Joseph E Treimal in the 1930 United States Federal Census Name: Joseph E Treimal [Joseph E Treiomal] Birth Year: abt 1863 Gender: Male Race: White Birthplace: Austria Marital Status: Widowed Relation to Head of House: Head Home in 1930: Bronx, Bronx, New York Map of Home: View Map Street address: 1050 Anderson Avenue Ward of City: Tract 189 Block: K House Number in Cities or Towns: 20 Dwelling Number: 114 Family Number: 1005 Home Owned or Rented: Rented Home Value: 65 Radio Set: Yes Lives on Farm: No Attended School: No Able to Read and Write: Yes Father's Birthplace: Austria Mother's Birthplace: Austria Language Spoken: German Immigration Year: 1880 - wrong, should be 1893 Naturalization: Naturalized Able to Speak English: Yes Occupation: Chef Industry: Bank?? Clerk - (No - this is Bankers' Club, which was on the 34th floor of 120 Broadway) Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker Employment: No Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph E Treimal 67 Ann Treimal 23 - secretary to concert manager Agnes Treimal 20 - stenographer Joseph Treimal 18 - stock clerk at a newspaper Louis Treimal 14 Rose J Treimal 21 - daughter, born NY - stenographer in law office. Can't see her in any other record.
Possibly son Louis in 1920, in New York Foundling Hospital:
Louis Tremel in the 1920 United States Federal Census Name: Louis Tremel [Louis Tranel] Age: 3 [3 9/12] [3 8/12??] Birth Year: abt 1917 [abt 1916] Birthplace: New York Home in 1920: Manhattan Assembly District 15, New York, New York Street: East 68 Street Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Inmate Marital Status: Single Father's Birthplace: Austria Mother's Birthplace: Austria Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Louis Tremel 3 [3 9/12] [3 8/12??]
Anna and Agnes in 1920, in a children's home:
Agnes Treimel in the 1920 United States Federal Census Name: Agnes Treimel [Agnes Freimal] Age: 10 Birth Year: abt 1910 Birthplace: New York Home in 1920: Cortlandt, Westchester, New York Street: St. Joseph's Home- South Street Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Inmate Marital Status: Single Father's Birthplace: Austria Mother's Birthplace: Austria Able to Speak English: Yes Attended School: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Anna Treimel 12 Agnes Treimel 10 (And lots of other children)
Son Joseph in same home:
Joseph Treimel in the 1920 United States Federal Census Name: Joseph Treimel Age: 8 Birth Year: abt 1912 Birthplace: New York Home in 1920: Cortlandt, Westchester, New York Street: St. Joseph's Home - South Street Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Inmate Marital Status: Single Father's Birthplace: Austria Mother's Birthplace: Austria Attended School: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Treimel 8
Joseph senior's death??
Joseph Treimel in the New York, New York, Death Index, 1862-1948 Name: Joseph Treimel Birth Year: abt 1860 Age: 72 Death Date: 14 Nov 1932 Death Place: Bronx, New York, USA Certificate Number: 9237
Maybe son Louis's death?? Louis J Treimel
in the U.S. Veterans Gravesites, ca.1775-2006 Name: Louis J Treimel Service Info.: AMM1 US NAVY WORLD WAR II Birth Date: 1 May 1916 Death Date: 21 Nov 1990 Service Start Date: 1 May 1941 Interment Date: 23 Nov 1990 Cemetery: Indiantown Gap National Cemetery Cemetery Address: Rr2, Box 484 Indiantown Gap Road Annville, PA 17003-9618 Buried At: Section 9-B Site 322
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I have been reading through the above post ...malcolm .Clem maybe they where uncles through stanley.Lesley.I am going on what my Mother has told me....she is 83 so only just started to talk about all this.there is a few skeletons in the family cupboard !! regards Chrissy
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yet again thank you so much for the info really useful .Anton Tremil was born in Sharding Austria. definitely as he had to go to the isle of man, in the war... really interesting all this stuff... thank you Regards Chrissy :-)
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TREIMEL KATHERINE BESSIE 1904 1986 1986 Deaths & burials Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
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Everything for TREIMEL from freebmd
Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%) Treimel Anton Headington 3a 1831
Births Sep 1903 (>99%) Treimel John Anton L Oxford 3a 1071
Births Jun 1906 (>99%) Treimel Irene Kathleen M Oxford 3a 1081
Marriages Mar 1925 (>99%) Treimel Irene K M Andrew Headington 3a 1435 (FIRST marriage - death posted some time ago)
Marriages Dec 1926 (>99%) Bush Katherine B Treimel Salisbury 5a 418 Treimel John A L Bush Salisbury 5a 418
Births Jun 1928 (>99%) Treimel Peter L Bush Salisbury 5a 248
Deaths Jun 1938 (>99%) Treimel John A L 34 Oxford 3a 1400
Deaths Mar 1940 (>99%) Treimel Anton 64 Oxford 3a 3503
Marriages Sep 1953 (>99%)
HAWKE Lily E M TREIMEL Ploughley 6b 2407 TREIMEL Stanley G HAWKE Ploughley 6b 2407
Deaths Jun 1973 (>99%) TREIMEL LILY ELIZA M 15SE1899 ST.ALBANS 4B 589
There are NO emigration records for the name TREIMEL on FMP
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