Genealogy Chat

JanineAnnie, that's good idea. I will remember next time.

Gins/Chris/Malcolm: many thanks for your help.

New Peter Street changed to Chadwick Street.

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/maps.jsp?map=green&map_item_id=5487&tagtype=2&mclass=f

(can see this one, above Old Pye Street, with Peter Street under that!)

or...

http://london1868.com/weller53.htm

(under Tothill Street)

Chris :)

National Library of Scotland have the old O.S. maps which are excellent for this sort of thing. I guess there's an equivalent in England / Wales...The British Library maybe? Google maps are searchable by streets which still exist - often not the case.

You can search this London map up to 1868


http://london1868.com/weller41.htm

orchard street westminster 1847

(above on google search, might help)


http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/forms/formMain.jsp

(place and map search on above might help with area, although only to 1834)

Chris :)

Type this into google maps


36 Orchard St, Mayfair, City of Westminster, London W1H, United Kingdom

Gins, really, Orchard St is still there. I found New Peter Street before. I will check London map again.

That's fine - I just wondered if the 6 could be a 'B' and and therefore the 'o' is showing as small letter making it a 3 as the house number. Just a thought

Gins, thanks.

Mary Ramage was with her grandfather, Thomas and his second wife, Mary Ramage in Northumberland.

William was with his parents, Thomas and Hester and his brother Richard in Middlesex.

Orchard St and New Peter St (Grroms address) are next on from each other near Oxford St, so Id say thats the correct address

JanineAnnie. There is no area in London. It is in Middlesex.

No problem

I was just checking the 1851 to look at the address

I cant see them in 1841 to check the address?


The Parish is St John Westminster

Hi

Which area in London is the street - does it say on the cert?

(Assuming it is London!?)

Gins, no worries. Many thanks for your help. It is possible that it could be Couchard St. I will try to google it.

Thanks for 1851 census. I already have it before. :-)

Cheers, Steven.

This is them in 1851

1851 England Census
Name: William S Waters
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Waters
Mother's Name: Hester Waters
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: St John Westr, Middlesex, England

Regent St

Civil parish: Westminster St John the Evangelist
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 116
Piece: 1479
Folio: 628
Page Number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
William S Waters 24
Mary Waters 23
Heston O Waters 5
Mary E Waters 1 Mo
Hester Waters 54

So sorry


I had tgot caught up with something

Will take a look now


Edit: I think is is 36 Orchard St but could b 6 Couchard St


Chris the marriage is in April 1847 in a registra office - London

Mary Ramage to William S Waters, both minors

No worries Steven, will see how Gins goes!.
Just wondered if it was online...

Chris :)

Hi Chris, not yet, I have not heard from Gins.

I can send you my attachment into your PM if you like?

Did you 'sort' it Gins, anything we can view online?...

Chris :)

Hi Gins, thanks. I have just PM you with attachment of the certificate.

Cheers, Steven.