Genealogy Chat

Hi Janet..and i live two minutes out of Hertford???as you say lots of pubs lol

Gill

im in stevenage and there are lots of pubs some dating back to 1500's as we had the old coaching inns on the high street which was the run through for the great north road from scotland to london and every other building was a pub and still is....infact theres more now than ever.

Forgot to say Hertford has the oldest Quaker meeting house in the World built 1610. We also have a Quaker burial ground.

Mgnv, you are quite correct Letchworth was designed by Ebenezer Howard who was a Quaker. It was the first Garden City. He also designed Welwyn Garden City (Hence the Howard Centre WGC) However, Hertfordshire on the whole isn't dry. I live in Hertford and have just returned from a pleasant evening in the Old Barge.

I'm fairly certain that the lack of pubs in Letchworth and Welwyn is more than made up for by the number of pubs in Hertford and Ware!

Council cemetery I would have thought to be honest. Also, I think there are now special burial grounds for humanists and eco friendly folk in designated woodland areas. Remember reading a novel about this once believe it or not. The man who ran it was an amatuer sleuth I think.

Apparently willow/woven coffins aren't that unusual either for those who are very into all things eco.

see what you are saying about a churchyard but where else is there? I know you can get permission to have a relative buried in your garden but a friend did this and then sold the house!

So can we guess where all the Letchworthians went on a Saturday night????



Re humanist funerals - fair enought if one has no religious belief - its just funny how they are quite willing to take up a place in the churchyard!!!



I'm sure I read somewhere that Dame Judi Dench is a Quaker or has leanings that way. I know they do a lot of contemplating in a spiritual atmosphere and speak when they feel moved to do so - but that's about the limit of my knowledge.

I used to work in the old Quaker house in letchworth which was the only pub that didnt serve alcoholic drinks. Its a lovelly building..we used to hire a couple of the rooms for offices.

I am guardians to two children...guardians are the Humanist version of a god parent.

I went to a humanist funeral - no religious aspect at all other than it was in a churchyard - people just said various things about the deceased and someone did readings from her favourite author Dylan Thomas

you can blame closed pubs on all those anti-smokers - where are they now the smokers, about whom they compained so vociferously, have gone? Apparently they don't like pubs now cos there's no atmosphere - seems the smokers were sociable people!!! Strange world innit!!!!!!

I once lived in a town (Letchworth) that was founded by quakers (I think). Anyway, it had a population of about 30000 and no pubs at all - mind you, there was a village (Baldock, population 2000) just 2 miles away that had 50 pubs.

There are so many pubs up for sale in Wigan that it's unreal!!!

Well, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, but I am. The family have all moved away, so it's 18 years since I was last there, but I remember it as how it used to be, and really have never updated that. 18 years back, I wasn't surprised that the woman on Lord Street wasn't still running a fish and chip shop out of her front living room, nor that Hindley & Abram Grammar School was then unoccupied - I half expected those, but I sort of think of pubs as inviolate.

Oooh! Sorry to disappoint you but I think it's closed. I went past yesterday and have a feeling there is a for sale notice on it........oh dear!


Nothing stays the same.........there used to be a 'cloggers' just across the road but that too has closed a while ago and the man who made the clogs died suddenly a few weeks back. Another piece of history gone.

Well, I wouldn't say no to popping into the Bird ith Hand, but it's 13000 km away.

and I'm thwarted!!! I live quite near to where Ignatious lived and here I am, already to take a photo of his house and his grave etc for you ............




and you have absolutely no interest in him!!!!!





Humph!

I just googled, and Quaker seems to hit the mark.
How interesting, I thonk I'm finally getting an
edumacation doing genealogy!!

No hymns? Or music?

Jill

Could it be a Quaker funeral? I know they have a portion of their services conducted in silent contemplation so perhaps this also applies to a burial.

They also don't have memorials, something to do with not believing in personal glorification. No doubt William Penn would be fairly peeved to know he had a state named after him.

Maybe there was no service or maybe no mourners.