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Nina.I'm looking!! (After the Cricket!!)

Derek

Annina.Hi Nina.........I think you're pushing it a bit becasue there is no marruage for Francis and Jane..I have the two baptisma you mention Thomas 30.10.1674..and William 16.04.1676..parents Francis and Jane.

But I also have .Joseph..and Mary..baptised 29.04 1683..along with James 02.11.1690 and Robert 09.04.1693..........children of Francis and Jane....

So ..the options are these.....Francis re-married someone in another Parish very soon after his wif'e's burial (heartless bugger!)..and had two further children..or if he was so very virile .had four further children right up to 1693............he died in 1702........
or we have a totally different Francis................My own opinion is that you settle with what you've got and ignore the later children.......

Derek

Thanks for that Derek, I will leave it at that then if you think that is OK. I will now go investigate another twig.

Once again, thanks heaps, I owe you one, love, Nina

Hi Derek,

I'm hoping you can find the baptism for John Dakin who I believe was born in Kirk Langley. Unfortunately I'm not sure of the year except it's between 1809-1813 depending on which record I look at. I know he married Elizabeth Potts on 17/9/1832 at Breedon on the Hill. He lived and died in Mickleover, Derby, his burial at the parish church on 6/10/1877.

Thanks for all the help you give on here

Chris

Chris.....no John Dakin yet..too many of them!! but I have possible parents.....JOSEPH DAKIN married ELIZABETH MANSFIELD Kirk Langley 23.04.1792

Derek

Hi Derek, Thank you for your offer of help, I think I have posted this right.

I have a family in Whitwell Derbyshire, in particular Samuel Godley born 1778 with parents Samuel and Ann Godley, I was wondering if you could help find his babtism please, it would help me very much.

Thank you
Tox

Hi Derek,

Thank you for your reply, I was really hoping he would be there, thanks again for looking.

Chris

Hi Tox..........I don't know how much you already know; hopefully the following will be of some use to you:

Samuel Godfrey (1747-1812) married Ann Pacey(1754-1834) at Whitwell 08.01.1776

Their son SAMUEL GODFREY was baptised at Whitwell 20.07.1778

Both Stephen (30.06.1812) and his wife Ann (20.02.1834) are buried at Whitwell.

ANN PACEY(b1754) was the daughter of GEORGE PACEY(1720) and ANN PARKER(1716)

Samuel Godfrey(1747-1812) was one of six chilodren of:
STEPHEN GODLEY(1720-1808) who married MARTHA PATTINSON (1724 of Barlborough) at Barlborough 15.04.1745

Stephen was the son of ROBERT GODLEY(1691) and MARGARET BOURNE(1696) both of Barlborough.

There are loads of Godley Burials at Whitwell.....and i have all the Census details up to 1901 if you need any later information

All the best.

Derek

Hi again Chris.......I don't have the Kirk langley parish records...but i am a frequent visitor to the Records Office at matlock..so I'll check it out next time I go.
However the census records for 1871 1861.1851 show him born Mickleover c 1811..in 1871 he is a Nightwatchman....

I have records for Radbourne and for Mackworth, both places are nearer to Mickleover than Kirk Langley..so I'll have a look in those..otherwise its matlock records office!!

Derek

Hi Derek, thanks for your help, on your answer there are names GODFREY and GODLEY should they all read Godley please.
I am at the moment helping my friend with Godleys in Whitwell, we have recently read about Waterloo Man in a family tree magazine and we are trying to figure out if our Samuel Godley is indeed the same Samuel Godley Waterloo Man born 1778,
I have a babtism of Samuel Godley 1788 and wondered if this Samuel was babtised when he was 10.
I will read your answer carefully and hope it comes up with the answer we are hopnig for.
Thank you again and we hope to some day visit Whitwell cemetery.
Regards
Tox

Sorry Tox..yes..they are all Godleys..

Derek

Hey Tox........Google "Samuel Godley Waterloo Warrior"....its all there!! Samuel Godley son of Samuel....................job done!
(Forget any samuel being christened at the age of 10!)

Derek

Hi Derek,
13th October 1891 my Grandfather VICTOR COLES married ELIZA LANCASTER in WEST DERBY.

Victor was born in Somerset and Eliza was born in Kirkdale,Liverpool 1868

In 1910 Victor was living in Cardiff with his WIFE ALICE, my grandmother.

I do not know if Victor and Eliza had any children !

I do not know when Eliza died !

I cannot find a marriage for Victor and ALICE POOLE !

Any info you may be able to provide me with will be very much appreciated.

Regards
Patricia

Hi Patricia...........my speciality is Derbyshire, not Lancashire, and certainly not Somerset. West Derby is in fact Liverpool Lancs.

However, i've had a look around for you and have found the 1891 marraige to Eliza Lancaster in Liverpool.

Any children of that marriage would presumably be between 1891 and 1901, and there are only FOUR such births..in West Derby during that time.

They are:

Beatrice M Coles 1891
Ada E Coles 1893
Francis B Coles 1896
Geroge R Coles 1898

There is no indication on the lancs BMD who their parents were...though their Birth Certificates would tell you.

I also may have another way of finding out..I'll let you know..

Now then!! Victor A Coles was born in Clevedon Somerset in 1870/71 son of Alfred H Coles and Mary Ann (nee Brown)

Both of their parenst came from newbury in Berks.

Victor is on the 1871 and 1881 Census in Clevedon..but he is nowhere to be found on the 1891 Census.

As you say he is in Glamorgan 1901 with wife Alice, but no children as yet..so I reckon you're looking for a marriage 1900 ish.....

But what he was doing in liverpool in the interim is a mystery, and I;ve checked the Victor A Coles married to Alice is infact the same one..born Clevedon 1870/71.

I can't find a death for Eliza either.....it seems unlikely ashe died in lancashire.
ADDITION 20.51..none of the above four children belong to Victor and Eliza.


Derek

Really annoying when you do a few hours work for someone, and he/she does not return to their thread to acknowledge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Derek

Afternoon Derek, Bad manners, that's what it is. Or a blown up computer, which happened to me a few weeks ago.

Hi Derek you are a popular fellow!

Anyway thanks with help so far - I will now keep a lookout for any details of the family of Ann Cokayne Clark of Spondon. It will be so helpful to know something of her before her marriage to Oliver Fox.

In anticipation
Pamela

Hi Pamela.as promised here is what I have found in the Spondon parish records:-

ROBERT CLARK married MARY TWIGG 04.02.1787 at Spondon St Werbergh, and had the following children:
Dates are baptisms not birth dates.

Elizabeth 09.10.1787 (buried 27.11.1787)
John 15.04.1789
Hezekiah 24.06.1792
Hannah 12.04.1795
Mary Ann 13.12.1797 (buried 20.12.1797)
ANN COKAYNE 14.09.1799
Mary 15.10.1803 (buried 09.03.1810)

Gives you your very own slice of hardship and infant mortality, mirrored in so many families of the time, including mine.
(I have a grave of a six month old childe at Ashford Derbys who is one of three infant deaths of children of my ggg grandfather.have sort of adopted him and his grave, and visit him regularly.......sort of brings alive this whole thing which would otherwise be just paper names)

The parents of Robert Clark (baptised Spondon 07.02.1769) were John Clark and his wife Mary who were married somewhere other than Spondon.

ADDITION..22.39 Thursday:

Robert Clark's siblings:

Hezekiah 06.02.1776
Elizabeth 01.11.1772

Anything else you think might help..just ask.

All the best

Derek (ps...I'm popular because people know htey can rely on my information..fact rather than guessing or supposition)

Hey Fudge......as of tomorrow i will have the Phillimore Marriages for both the City of Nottingham and of Nottinghamshire..........I have no intention of getting intp Notts Parish records.
I think i'll start a new Thread devoted entirely to Notts marriages.

Derek