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Another one bites the dust, received it yesterday but it wrong Mary Holden again - back to the drawing board

Donna

Hi Mary

Have ordered Mary first quarter 1938 - Farnworth aged 80. Mum says she was 78 but then again mum could be wrong. Keep your fingers crossed

Thanks for everybodies help

Love Donna

Thank you one and all for these, I will trawl through them and order. The one from farnworth looks promising. I suppose my mum could be wrong about the age when she died. It would help if some of these people were still around to tell you. Thanks again I will look at the ones you have sent me. This woman has been a pain from start to finish, she changed her age on census' changed her name on census' even though she wasn't married. She has lied about everything. Thanks again you are all wonderful

Hi Donna,
Been to Bolton library searched Farnworth cemetery from 1934 to 1938 couldnt find her will look again when I go next.

if you have her birth certificate this list might help you to find herLancashire Death indexes for the years: 1933
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
HOLDEN Mary 69 Turton Bolton TUR/24/320



Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1934
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
HOLDEN Mary E P 73 Halliwell Bolton HALL/52/316
HOLDEN Mary 65 South West Bolton Bolton SWB/42/74



Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1937
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
HOLDEN Mary E 71 Great Bolton and Lever Bolton GBL/2A/75



Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1938
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
HOLDEN Mary A 78 Little Bolton Bolton LB/3A/46
HOLDEN Mary A 82 Great Bolton and Lever Bolton GBL/2A/478
HOLDEN Mary 69 Little Bolton Bolton LB/2A/483



Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1939
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
HOLDEN Mary A 78 South West Bolton Bolton SWB/5A/183



Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1940
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
HOLDEN Mary E 64 Horwich Bolton HOR/4A/59



Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1943
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
HOLDEN Mary 71 Halliwell Bolton HALL/7A/178


Total records matching : 10.

No matching records were found for Mary HOLDEN in the following years:
1935, 1936, 1941, 1942

The full GRO reference for the death Mary found is:-

Mary A, Holden, age 80
March qtr. 1938, Farnworth, 8c, 483

Kath. x

Hi there is a Mary A Holden died aged 80 in 1938 first quarter district Farnworth could this be her?

All Mary Holden deaths
March 1934 76 Birmingham
72 Haslingden
March 1935 77 Stockport
June 1935 78 Blackburn
December 77 Dudley
March 1936 80 Rochdale
Sept 1936 79 Birmingham
Dec 1936 76 Burnley
75 Liverpool
March 1937 74 B Storford
Sept 1937 79 Faversham
Dec 1937 74 Surrey SW
76 Worthing
82 Edmonton

Hope this helps as it is all the deaths I could find around that time. Lots are not in area you mention but I thought I would give them all to you. Good Luck Irene

I know she was buried at Farnworth Cemetary and lived in Farnworth, I should write to them I suppose. I feel like I am banging my head against a brick wall. It took me over 10 years to find her birth which I eventually did of course. The one I ordered was Mary Alice Holden died 1935 8c 384. Did she die? or is she still amongst us LOL. Thanks for all your help everybody

Which one did you order? Barry's deleted his message.

Rose

Do you have an address where Mary lived?
Using old electoral lists you could ask for a search to see when she 'disappears' from that. That might give an indication of when she died. ( remember lists are compiled c.October and published the following year)
Using last known address you should be able to check which churches / cemeteries are nearby and then burial lists could be checked and matched with known facts. The fact that stones have been moved shouldn't matter to searches. The records will be somewhere.

Gwyn

Can anyone help please

Ordered death cert and guess what - yes it wasn' the one. I am a bit dubious about the other one mentioned because I don't think it is her but I will order it all the same anothe 7 quid down the drain probably. Anybody else help with this?

Have ordered first one from Barry , keep your fingers crossed for me and thanks for all your help. Christine that site is good because I can actually write about other strange happenings in our family. Like why is my great grandfather buried with 2 complete random people, even on headstone. Thanks again

Thanks Christine will do that. Thanks for your help

Love Donna

Have you got her birth cert for her age?

You may find this site useful, there may be an email address for you to contact them and check the registers rather than sending for a few different certs.

http://www.boltonmuseums.org.uk/bolton-archives/archives-indexes/cemetery-registers/index_html#farnworth

Just had a quick look at the home page and they will do a 15min search free of charge.

Christine

Christine - Little Bolton - just looked it up and unless there was a hospital there at one time I don't think this could be her, it is not really close to where she lived in Farnworth/Ringley. Thanks anyway, I will keep number of cert just in case the other one isn't the correct one. Thanks

Thanks again Barry, Christine what do they class as Little Bolton but will order that one as well.

Portland Rose, Nanna lived another 20 years after and didn't die with that, Mary's grave stone has been moved and mum can't find it. Unfortunately I cannot get there because I am in Aussie. I think she may be at Farnworth Cemetary or Ringley. Mum knew roughly where it was but they have knocked down buildings and now she has no idea and it is a lot to ask her because she is 81 years old now. I will find the truth though.

Thanks again for everybodies help

Love Donna

Donna,

Have you tried telling your mum you can quite easily find out how they died by ordering the death certs? That might be enough for her to tell you the truth.

Do you know where Mary Agnes Holden is buried? Perhaps you can get the year she died from the gravestone.

Rose

Hi Donna,

It does seem a common name doesn't it?

Have you considered this possibility from Lancs BMD? A bit later than you thought but age is 78.

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1938
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
HOLDEN Mary A 78 Little Bolton Bolton LB/3A/46

Christine